2014 Vic Christmas Case Swap - Recipe

[Grainer]

what was the last one?? 4 shades??? I still have to ferment it.. A stout of some kind...

 

[Mardoo]

IIRC a Smurto Dry Stout. Still have to ferment mine too.

 

[Grainer]

Dry engligh ale yeast ???

 

[Mardoo]

I need a buttload of 1469 for an RIS I'm doing so I'm using the swap stout to build it up.

 

[idzy]

Proposed recipe - Upscaled

Batch Size: 440.00 l
Boil Size: 467.27 l
Boil Time: 90 min
End of Boil Vol: 457.60 l
Final Bottling Vol: 440.00 l


Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 70.0 %


76.77 kg Pale Malt, (Joe White) (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 73.7 %
15.35 kg Munich, Dark (Joe White) (15.0 SRM) Grain 2 14.7 %
3.84 kg Carafa II (412.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.7 %
2.74 kg Crystal Dark (Simpsons) (120.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.6 %
2.74 kg Crystal Pale (Simpsons) (40.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.6 %
2.71 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 6 2.6 %


327.66 g Super Alpha [13.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 7 26.6 IBUs
23.22 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 8 -
421.28 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 4.9 IBUs

234.04 g Sticklebract [13.50 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs

 

[Yob]

Alright.. Now we're cooking..

Setup and mill on the Friday again?

 

[Mardoo]

I can supply 12.5 kilos of Bestmalz Munich II (13 SRM). It's been stored air tight under dry conditions for a year. Tastes good, but I'd like to see it used and I won't get around to it soon enough. Whaddaya think? I'll start the list if the more experienced folks think it'd be OK for the recipe. I split the bag with Technobabble so he may or may not have a spare 3 kilos so all the Munich is the same.

 

[Yob]

Names and weights folks. I'll make the assumption at this point that all contributors can ensure that ingredients are on site on the Friday? Im happy to be a drop point for anyone that cant make it on the day to set up and mill.

76.77 kg Pale Malt, (Joe White) - Yob 25 kg +
15.35 kg Munich, Dark (Joe White) - Mardoo (12.5) kg +
3.84 kg Carafa II (412.0 SRM) -
2.74 kg Crystal Dark (Simpsons) -
2.74 kg Crystal Pale (Simpsons) -
2.71 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) -


327.66 g Super Alpha [13.00 %]
421.28 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Yob
234.04 g Sticklebract [13.50 %] - Dry Hop (this I assume to be the NZ variety?)

Misc

23.22 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 8 - Brewbrite - Yob
Anti Foaming Agent - Yob

Question, Id suggest doing our own hop additions to cubes again for the same reasons as last time, the profile of the first cube will be significantly different to the last one and allows for greater variety.

 

[mofox1]

I'll check stocks tonight... I should/might have a few kilos of simpsons light left.

I've also got some CaraMunich III as a potential sub for the dark crystal. Is the Carafa the huskless one? There are probably better options, but I've got a stash of midnight wheat which is going to take a looong time to go through (BB split).

Failing a decent amount to contribute, what's the story with rounding out costs for the brew? If Yob's chucking in 25kg, it sounds like he should be reimbursed some.

 

[technobabble66]

i can do the extra few kg's of Munich 2, plus the Simpson's Dark Crystal (unless mofox is desperate to get rid of his CM II).
+1 for as much cube hopping as possible (actually, i assume the Cascade addition would have to be cubed anyway...).


76.77 kg Pale Malt, (Joe White) - Yob 25 kg +
15.35 kg Munich, Dark (Joe White) - Mardoo (12.5) kg + Techno (3kg)
3.84 kg Carafa II (412.0 SRM) -
2.74 kg Crystal Dark (Simpsons) - Techno (2.74kg)
2.74 kg Crystal Pale (Simpsons) -
2.71 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) -


327.66 g Super Alpha [13.00 %]
421.28 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Yob
234.04 g Sticklebract [13.50 %] - Dry Hop (this I assume to be the NZ variety?)

Misc

23.22 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 8 - Brewbrite - Yob
Anti Foaming Agent - Yob

 

[Mardoo]

Technobabble, if you still work near my work you can drop your grain off with me and I can take to Idzy's. Ferntree Gully is probably a bit of a hike for you IIRC.

 

[Grainer]

I have quite a bit of crystal..might have carafe II .. Ill have to check..

 

[idzy]

Alright.. Now we're cooking..

Setup and mill on the Friday again?

Absolutely and bring your thumb

 

[technobabble66]

Technobabble, if you still work near my work you can drop your grain off with me and I can take to Idzy's. Ferntree Gully is probably a bit of a hike for you IIRC.

Yep. That'd be perfect for me. Let me know when suits you and I'll swing by your work. Could even try for a drink or 2 at MG if you wanted...

 

[Yob]

Proposed recipe - Upscaled

Batch Size: 440.00 l
Boil Size: 467.27 l
Boil Time: 90 min
End of Boil Vol: 457.60 l
Final Bottling Vol: 440.00 l


Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 70.0 %


76.77 kg Pale Malt, (Joe White) (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 73.7 %
15.35 kg Munich, Dark (Joe White) (15.0 SRM) Grain 2 14.7 %
3.84 kg Carafa II (412.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.7 %
2.74 kg Crystal Dark (Simpsons) (120.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.6 %
2.74 kg Crystal Pale (Simpsons) (40.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.6 %
2.71 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 6 2.6 %


327.66 g Super Alpha [13.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 7 26.6 IBUs
23.22 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 8 -
421.28 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 4.9 IBUs

234.04 g Sticklebract [13.50 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs

Has this been run through any software as yet? particularly interested in how much strike water we need...

lets say losses to systems are ~%20 of the system size (absorption + dead space etc)

200L = 40L
130L = 26L
75L = 20L

+ what we actually want out which is greater than the system size

200L = 240L
130L = 150L
75L = 100L

for a total of 490L pre boil

490 + 90 = 580L lets call it an even 600L total liquor

:blink: h34r:

I got some anti foaming agent ... buuuuut.. its a ferment foam not a boil foaming agent so not sure it's any good to us..

anybody?

 

[mofox1]

I'll check stocks tonight... I should/might have a few kilos of simpsons light left.

I've also got some CaraMunich III as a potential sub for the dark crystal. Is the Carafa the huskless one? There are probably better options, but I've got a stash of midnight wheat which is going to take a looong time to go through (BB split).

Failing a decent amount to contribute, what's the story with rounding out costs for the brew? If Yob's chucking in 25kg, it sounds like he should be reimbursed some.

Looks like I don't have enough light crystal for any meaningful contribution. Bummer.

 

[Mardoo]

I've only just found I have a buttload of Simpson's Medium Crystal if The Beer Gods think that would work instead. I don't think it's the right sub really, but it's free!

 

[Yob]

Could probably sub for the light crystal without issue mate, idzy's final call though of course.

 

[technobabble66]

I wonder if I may be of some assistance, gentlemen.
I have a few kilos of Simpsons pale crystal. I'll double check but I should be able to also supply the 2.75kgs of pale/light required.

 

[Yob]

76.77 kg Pale Malt, (Joe White) - Yob 25 kg +
15.35 kg Munich, Dark (Joe White) - Mardoo (12.5) kg + Techno (3kg)
3.84 kg Carafa II (412.0 SRM) -
2.74 kg Crystal Dark (Simpsons) - Techno (2.74kg)
2.74 kg Crystal Pale (Simpsons) - Techno (2.74kg)
2.71 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) -


327.66 g Super Alpha [13.00 %]
421.28 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Yob (AU)
234.04 g Sticklebract [13.50 %] - Dry Hop (this I assume to be the NZ variety?)

Misc

Brewbrite - Yob
Anti Foaming Agent - Yob