Which hop is best for double IPA?

[controversy13]

I'm currently brewing a double IPA which will be over 80 IBU and I want to dry hop either huell melon or chinook, which I have plenty of.
What do you think is best and what are your thoughts on these two varieties?

 

[timmi9191]

First thought is 80 ibu's is short of a double ipa. Second, there is no answer to which is best. Would depend on other hops you're using and personal tastes.

 

[controversy13]

It will be over 80 not sure exactly, I'm just not sure if huell will be too fruity or if chinook is too high in a-a's

 

[wereprawn]

Huell melon is very mild. You'd need a shitload in a big flavoured beer for it to come through
.

 

[controversy13]

Ok cool thanks for that, maybe I should just chuck both in [emoji51]

 

[wereprawn]

Or save the huell for something else. I've used it in faux lagers with good results. Would also go well in some wheat beers, saisons and golden ales.

 

[Leyther]

Simcoe one of my favourites, I like its resinous expecially in a DIPA

 

[Yob]

Chinook will bring big pine, tempered with a heavy dose of melon could work well

But yeah... Simcoe

 

[Dan Pratt]

Run with a 100% Chinook.

Boil for 90mins

FWH = 15 ibu
90m = 30 ibu
30m = 40 ibu

Whirlpool/hopstand end of the boil for 30mins with 6g per Litre of Chinook. This will be another 30+ibu and all your flavour.

Chill and ferment.

When the beer has fermented add 6g per litre of Chinook. 2days later add another 3g per litre and leave them for 3-4 days.

 

[hirschb]

Run with a 100% Chinook.

Boil for 90mins

FWH = 15 ibu
90m = 30 ibu
30m = 40 ibu

Whirlpool/hopstand end of the boil for 30mins with 6g per Litre of Chinook. This will be another 30+ibu and all your flavour.

Chill and ferment.

When the beer has fermented add 6g per litre of Chinook. 2days later add another 3g per litre and leave them for 3-4 days.

Dude, do not use that recipe! I cannot imagine it will be drinkable.
1. Chinook has really high cohumulone levels, the resultant beer will have an overwhelmingly astringent-bitterness associated with this compound. High cohumulone levels can be fine if they are well balanced by other flavors and mouthfeel, but I see no evidence that you're doing anything to balance out the flavors/aromas in this beer.
2. Using a lot of a hop, "just because you have it," is a bad idea. Plan out the beer you want to drink, don't just thrown **** in a pot.
3. Chinook works very, very well in combination with other hops. It is not a good all-around hop that can be used for a SMASH or single hop beer.

 

[Dan Pratt]

^ ^ yeah cos Stone Arrogant ******* has been such a failure.

 

[bigmacthepunker]

My double was warrior at 60 then calypso, equinox & citra. That combo made a great beer imo

 

[timmi9191]

^ ^ yeah cos Stone Arrogant ******* has been such a failure.

Bahaha... somone just got owned

 

[pist]

Chinook mosaic and galaxy. Just about finished a dipa now that has those and my god is it tasty

 

[bradsbrew]

Chinook mosaic and galaxy. Just about finished a dipa now that has those and my god is it tasty

Add simcoe to that combo and you've got a cracker.

 

[hirschb]

^ ^ yeah cos Stone Arrogant ******* has been such a failure.

Yeah, Arrogant ******* is not my favorite beer. The hop profile is pretty gross (and this is from someone who could regularly get fresh Arrogant ******* in the States). The only thing making AB palatable is the large amount of malt-sweetness to balance out the overwhelming bitterness of the hops. If you used the same quantity of hops as AB, but with a standard DIPA malt bill, I think you'll get exactly what I said- a pretty ****** beer. In this case, he's suggesting to use ~3 times the amount of Chinook in AB.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

Columbus for the dank pine and something fruity like citra or mosaic for the juice. Go hard

 

[Thefatdoghead]

If you have all that chinook, make a black ipa on the roasty side and use your lower alpha hops for bittering.
Do a big long hop stand with Chinook and then dry hop it like pratty said.
I love Chinook dryhopped in roasty dark beers.

 

[pist]

Dude, do not use that recipe! I cannot imagine it will be drinkable.
1. Chinook has really high cohumulone levels, the resultant beer will have an overwhelmingly astringent-bitterness associated with this compound. High cohumulone levels can be fine if they are well balanced by other flavors and mouthfeel, but I see no evidence that you're doing anything to balance out the flavors/aromas in this beer.
2. Using a lot of a hop, "just because you have it," is a bad idea. Plan out the beer you want to drink, don't just thrown **** in a pot.
3. Chinook works very, very well in combination with other hops. It is not a good all-around hop that can be used for a SMASH or single hop beer.

I disagree 200% with this. Nail released an american amber called beazle brew as part of their brew log series which was exclusively chinook for aroma/flavour and it was great

 

[hirschb]

I disagree 200% with this. Nail released an american amber called beazle brew as part of their brew log series which was exclusively chinook for aroma/flavour and it was great

See my comment above about Arrogant *******. Chinook is pretty harsh- it needs to be balanced out with some serious malt/sweetness/alcohol, or used in a bland of other hops. This guy is making a 80+ IBU DIPA. It's not going to be balanced using all Chinook.