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When I was in Israel on the kibbutz I got totally hammered at Hanukkah.

The next holiday was Purim, in February. I got really excited at the prospect of the Goldstar flowing, but it turned out to be very glum with weird potato pancakes and no grog. Oh the humanity.
 
@Grott Actually, Australia is not a Christian country...

Wrinkly's point-of-view:
It seemed to be (a Christian country) when I was growing up. I can remember once a week at school (a state school) we had RE - religious education. We were divided up into 'religions' and off we went to different classrooms for half an hour. The 'religions' on offer were C o E, Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, etc. I don't remember any kids being left on the bench un-catered for. It was understood that we WERE Christians, but of different flavours.

So that was a long time ago, of course, but in my mind, Australia traditionally WAS a Christian country, but we're now being out-numbered. To younger folk whose world only started in much more recent times, I can understand the different perception of how Australia is.
 
Unlike the UK where I grew up, Australia struck me as a very "Christian" country with heaps of religious schools etc. However I think we can put this down mainly to the catholics.
In the UK, everyone was catholic until Henry the Eighth spat the dummy and cancelled catholicism.
Since then the Mainland UK catholic population has come back slightly due mostly to Irish immigration and recently from places like Poland, but catholics are still fairly uncommon there (with the exception of course of big enclaves like Liverpool etc with their Irish connection) - we had catholic next door neighbours and that was actually quite a talking point at the time in Newcastle Upon Tyne. Catholics were, and still are, considered a wee bit lower working class, mostly as a result of their Bog Irish labourers and navvies origin.

In Australia however due to immigration, catholics are a huge component of the population - here in Kyogle for example the church and the catholic primary school occupy a huge stretch of the street front, and same in Casino - look for the tall expensive brick buildings with the JC's mum's statue out front.

Also a lot of the poor kids who got sent out here after the War ended up in the hands of the nuns and the fathers as we have been seeing lately. I'd guess if it hadn't been for the RC's here, Australia would be more like the UK nowadays where nobody speaks about their religion, church attendances are pretty low and the vicar is a funny old fashioned person who potters around the village, not a rabble rousing hell fire pulpit thumper as in the USA and to a certain extent Australia (think Hillsong).
 
Question without notice:

Do non-Christians in this country observe Christmas and Easter holidays? Or do they conscientiously work right through...

Speaking only for myself, yes, when I worked for a very large brewery I would volunteer to do the ferment rounds over easter and christmas on the grounds that I don't celebrate either holy day. No, I didn't get paid for it, I was on salary.
 
What does indigenous mean, it seems always as a reference only to aboriginals. I thought it meant born of the country.
Just asking.
 
How do you think Australian Indigenous feel?

Well, its a matter of perspective I guess. Like the aboriginal bloke who works for us part time once told me - around last Australia day actually - **** it, thats history, who wants to be sitting in the ******* sun, covered in flies digging grubs out of logs when you can be sitting in an conditioned bar ordering a steak and drinking a cold beer?
Sample size of one, I know.
Someone should take a survey.
 
Wrinkly's point-of-view:
It seemed to be (a Christian country) when I was growing up. I can remember once a week at school (a state school) we had RE - religious education. We were divided up into 'religions' and off we went to different classrooms for half an hour. The 'religions' on offer were C o E, Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, etc. I don't remember any kids being left on the bench un-catered for. It was understood that we WERE Christians, but of different flavours.

So that was a long time ago, of course, but in my mind, Australia traditionally WAS a Christian country, but we're now being out-numbered. To younger folk whose world only started in much more recent times, I can understand the different perception of how Australia is.


We're getting down to semantics here because it's kind of two different things.

Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country, by law that is the religion and many laws and practices are based on the contents of the Koran.

Australia is a secular country, the church is separated from the judiciary and the parliament and the executive. We are free to worship as we please and religious practice does not supercede the law. Of course, many of our laws are based on the ten commandments (steal, murder, etc.) but many commandments are not law (adultery, idols, etc.) and many laws we have are devoid of religious values. So it's not 100% black and white but we are not a Christian or religious country given the separation of powers and religious freedoms enforced by law.

What you are getting at is the prevailing culture. When I went to school we also had scripture classes based on denomination (shit, I even went to Sunday school!) but you could opt out if you wanted and they were 40 mins a week. Yes you see many churches and Christian schools, in the majority as well, but you also see Jewish schools and Synagogs, Muslim schools and Mosques, Ba'hai schools and their temples, etc. etc. Christianity previals in terms of statistics but that's all and it is also reducing rapidly due to both the reduction in religiosity of society in general as well as the increase in other religions as well as 'alternative' religions (paganism, spaghetti monster, satanism, beerism, Zuckerburgism, etc. etc.).

I just asked a barman if he had any IPAs as we had a long almost-Christmas lunch. He said "we've got something that's almost an IPA" and handed me a pale ale.

Prick should be crucified.
 
Thankfully most lawful pillars of society pre date the decalogue. Not killing and stealing from one another were hardly new ideas.

Covet thy neighbor's (metaphoric) ass? What if his ass was a nice beer? Should I not try to emulate and perhaps improve upon it it? Proof the Bible is phooey.
 
What does indigenous mean, it seems always as a reference only to aboriginals. I thought it meant born of the country.
Just asking.
Hence the use of 'Australian' beforehand.

And I see it used in many other contexts.
 
I received an email from Aussie Home Brewer:

"Happy Holidays from all of us at Aussie Homebrewer!
This Holiday we are really excited to announce that our great partner BrewersFriend.com has offered us 10% off for all our members!
Thanks to Brewer's Friend and again Happy Holidays!"

WTF is this "Happy Holidays"?

It's MERRY CHRISTMAS in Australia and always will be, thank you very much.
One would think Aussie Home Brewer would be the last outfit to fall for this politically correct bullshit.

Jesus wept!
 
Its spam from the owners....
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..you can turn getting emails off
 
someone else already has their panties in a bunch about completely ******* nothing
https://aussiehomebrewer.com/threads/christmas-not-holiday.97364/page-2#post-1494778

get off your high horse mate, have a beer and ignore it if you don't want to receive well wishes.

the only thing worse than people complaining about merry christmas are the people complaining about happy ******* holidays. **** me who gives a flying ****

sorry its been a long week...
 

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