The two captains was an awesome beer, bum, though I'm not sure how you'll like it... It wasn't big hop aroma in your face like an American example of a big IPA or IIPA, but it was a very flavoursome hoppy example with a huge malt profile to back up all that bitterness. It really is as it looks too; like a hop soup, with a very rich, languid mouthfeel
Finally cracked one of these tonight. Even with my post above taken in to account I was still a little taken aback by this beer - partly Nogne O's habit of brewing beer that just aren't what you expect and partly because of schooey. I "blame" schooey because this beer does have a reasonably large hop aroma. Much bigger than pretty much any US version (i.e. import, not style) of an IPA that I've had in this country but it is not big in the same way as that style usually is, it is a much more...um, I dunno, thicker smell? - hard to explain, this thickness is not entirely malt derived. And not just kinda big but really bloody nice - so nice that SWMBO took one look at me when I smelled it and asked if she should check to see if I'd moved "downstairs" (my euphemism, none of you need to know exactly how vulgar SWMBO can be). But the taste is not at all what I expected (even when I tried my best not to expect anything specific). I've had a few beers that look like this (see schooey's post of 09/06) but the mouthfeel and flavour was entirely different. ****. I'll stop rambling here - this beer defies description for me. Sorry.You're right, I would be expecting a big aroma but your observation above is what I thought (and what appealed) when I saw the picture. I also know not to have any concrete expectations from a Nogne brew - except, possibly, that it won't be like any beer I've had before.
Had a James Squire 150 Lashes over lunch today (on tap) pretty forgettable beer. Very pale in the glass, maybe 5 or 7srm. Odds choice as a seasonal release in the middle of winter. Some very slight fruity citrusy aromas followed by a thin body with no real malt flavour... Maybe a touch grainy/biscuity. Supposedly Nelson sav and Amarillo, but only got the slightest bit of hop flavor. Wasn't expecting much and didn't get much, but could be very sessionable. On par with the way the golden ale currently is.... Ie disappointing.
whoa just shows how different everyones paletes are. orval is one of my all time favourite beers.
This one was pretty much exactly half way through the bottled and best before date so if I do try it again it'll either be extremely fresh or well near the end of life, as I understand it the flavor can change quite a bit over time with this beer
re: Nogne O Two Captains
Finally cracked one of these tonight. Even with my post above taken in to account I was still a little taken aback by this beer - partly Nogne O's habit of brewing beer that just aren't what you expect and partly because of schooey. I "blame" schooey because this beer does have a reasonably large hop aroma. Much bigger than pretty much any US version (i.e. import, not style) of an IPA that I've had in this country but it is not big in the same way as that style usually is, it is a much more...um, I dunno, thicker smell? - hard to explain, this thickness is not entirely malt derived. And not just kinda big but really bloody nice - so nice that SWMBO took one look at me when I smelled it and asked if she should check to see if I'd moved "downstairs" (my euphemism, none of you need to know exactly how vulgar SWMBO can be). But the taste is not at all what I expected (even when I tried my best not to expect anything specific). I've had a few beers that look like this (see schooey's post of 09/06) but the mouthfeel and flavour was entirely different. ****. I'll stop rambling here - this beer defies description for me. Sorry.
It was a nice beer.
This one was pretty much exactly half way through the bottled and best before date so if I do try it again it'll either be extremely fresh or well near the end of life, as I understand it the flavor can change quite a bit over time with this beer
Unless my Norwaydish is failing me I think mine was brewed last year (best before still had four years left on it though). Perhaps my lowered expectations for the aroma amplified it? Either way, it still smelled really bloody nice and I certainly didn't have to go searching for the aroma.Still wondering if yours was a little fresher than mine and the aroma was more prominent though....
I have had quite a few Orvals and they are the my favorite beer when in good condition, but are horrible when treated poorly.Could easily have been badly treated (heat kills them), despite not being out of date. I rarely buy belgians here in Perth as its a bit of a lottery. Such complex, delicate beers dont hold up well to the rigours of non-refrigerated travel.
The dislike for Orval lately has made me sad. The brett is quite subdued in the younger versions of the beer, but with aging (even 1 year on it) the brett comes out a lot more. I love Orval fresh, aged, out of code, don't care, I think it is one of those beers that has been developed by geniuses.
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