Well, I'm Officially An Ag'er

[Thirsty Boy]

sorry, not trying to be elitist (its just a natural talent) - only a realist.

You had a go, great, but you brewday was harder than you thought and there are reasons for that. You don't want to hear them?? Fine. I don't mind. If you simply want to be told that your issues were random and your methods were good - hooray, be told that and brew away.

Or you could take in the possibility that as a new brewer you might not have gotten it 100% right and re-evaluate what you did. Hell; I didn't say your brewday was bad... It seems to me that it was you who was less than happy.

My first brewday was a frigging disaster - over 100 brews later, the brew I did a month ago... was a frigging disaster. I'm in no damn position to tell you how to have a smooth and faultless brewday, maybe one day I will get there myself. But not yet.

Still, any attempting I make to mollify my own elitism isn't going to make up for the fact that you will still think I am when I say - your brew day was bad, and it was predictably bad. For predictable reasons.

Other people have given you some of those reasons, I just tried to take a little of the sugar coating off it for you, Genuinely trying to improve your chances of a better brewday next time. I could be nicer about it, but that wouldn't help your brewing any.

I don't know... does that attitude make me elitist? If it does, I suppose I am. But if there is smoke in the region of your arse, at least I know i am not responsible for blowing it up there

 

[reviled]

(and who would use a stove? Hmm, did I see a picture guide to BIAB done on a stove? Uh... Yes, yes I did. Worked well for him).

Isnt the picture guide for BIAB done with a gas burner on a bench top?

Anyway guys, just feel the love, were all here for the same reason, to talk and learn about making beer :icon_cheers:

 

[alowen474]

I say jolly good show old chap.
You'll never learn to swim if you don't get in and have a go!!

Even if this one doesn't work out so well, you'll have a better idea of what to expect next time.
Once you get used to your gear you'll have less problems, you will always have problems.
As a suggestion, grab some US05 dried yeast (or other) to get you started. Liquids can be a bit of a pain and a hassle you don't need right now.

Once you get your grain working, then look at the yeast.

Well done for having a crack.

Cheers

 

[chappo1970]

I don't think Thirsty was being elitist, he and a few others practically pioneered BIAB from what I have read and seen,and if there were overtones they are rightfully his IMO he put in the hard yards so others that followed didn't HAVE TO make the mistakes he made. What I perceived was a solid kick in the bum to get it right, improve his techniques use the resources on here to his advantage and maybe he can improve his brewing.
Anyone can brew beer but like other things in life "the devil is in the detail" if you want to make really good beers. I used to own a building company with 3 apprentices under my wing, I would tell them that it's ok to make mistakes BUT as long as you learn from them and most importantly learn to advoid them. IMO if you don't learn from your mistakes and continue what your doing then you are an absolute idiot.
That being said I think it takes guts to admit you completely farked it especially on an open forum where you can be run down by anomonous faceless ppl all with differing skills, knowledge and opinions. I can't, won't knock anyone who has a go, it takes guts and fortitude no matter what it is. There are plenty ppl who go thru life never having a go at the things they want to.
Anyway I say Tropics learn from your mistakes, aka leaving liquid yeast for 3 days in 36C etc. Review what you did and how your gunna do it better. Read more on this forum and others. Download the BIAB bible and the brew card (which will help you prepare for the next one). But for gods sake keep having a go!

 

[Pollux]

A fool doesn't learn from his mistakes,
An average man does,
A smart man learns from others mistakes.

 

[troublebrewing]

Then chalk me up as an average man, as I have definitely learned. The next brew will be a FWK as I've always wanted to try one, while I get the cash together for a gas bottle and a decent burner. Apart from that, I know what went wrong and will deal with it next time. A Dr Smurtos Golden Ale will be in order, I think.