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Hi Guys,

Ive recently moved on from kit brewing to full extract brewing and so far am producing excellent results. The last recipe I tried was Neills Centarlillo Ale with the addition of 200g crystal malt and it was a cracker! The best brew I have ever done, and remarkably simple to put down.

Anyway, as Im a novice Im going to stick with Neills basic method for the time being and just change the hop additions so I can get an idea of some hop flavours and characteristics. Yesterday I boiled an extract using Neills Ale recipe, replacing the Centennial and Amarillo for just Cascade with 10g @ 50min, 40g @ 30min and 40g @ 5min. I also added 500g Crystal Malt and 200g of LDME this time. Hope it turns out ok.

Im planning the next one, and I have 90g of B Saaz (Mouteka) which I was going to use. I know this hop is more suited to Pilsners but will it be okay in this ale? Maybe if this is no good, would the addition of some Hallertau help producing a good end result for an ale? Cheers in advance.
 

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Hi Guys,

I've recently moved on from kit brewing to full extract brewing and so far am producing excellent results. The last recipe I tried was Neills Centarlillo Ale with the addition of 200g crystal malt and it was a cracker! The best brew I have ever done, and remarkably simple to put down.

Anyway, as I'm a novice I'm going to stick with Neills basic method for the time being and just change the hop additions so I can get an idea of some hop flavours and characteristics. Yesterday I boiled an extract using Neills Ale recipe, replacing the Centennial and Amarillo for just Cascade with 10g @ 50min, 40g @ 30min and 40g @ 5min. I also added 500g Crystal Malt and 200g of LDME this time. Hope it turns out ok.

I'm planning the next one, and I have 90g of B Saaz (Mouteka) which I was going to use. I know this hop is more suited to Pilsners but will it be okay in this ale? Maybe if this is no good, would the addition of some Hallertau help producing a good end result for an ale? Cheers in advance.
Hi

B-Saaz are not strictly suited to Pilseners. Normal Saaz is suited but they are two separate hops. B-Saaz is more fruity, a true pilsener has little fruitiness.

B-Saaz is more suited to fruity ales than a Pilsener so you will be fine.

Mark
 

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Motueka(B Saaz) goes great in pale ales. Tony's All Grain recipie for a liitle creatures bright ale clone is testement to this. Just be careful not to overdo the late hop additions as you will end up with a brew that tastes like Pasito or pineapple juice :icon_vomit:
 

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Great info, thanks guys.

Would 40g of B Saaz at the end of a boil be classified as overdoing it? Should I cut this back to 20g maybe and put the other 20g in around half way through the boil?

Also, I know I am straying from my original plan here, but I have 50g of Hallertau (Coppertun brand from local brew store, god knows how old it is) that I'm keen to get rid of. If I whacked half in halfway through the boil and the rest in at flame out would this be ok you think?
 

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Should I cut this back to 20g maybe and put the other 20g in around half way through the boil?
Yes- definitely don't put in 40g at the end of the boil.
 

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Should I cut this back to 20g maybe and put the other 20g in around half way through the boil?
Yes- definitely don't put in 40g at the end of the boil.
 

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B Saaz is what the general consensus my homegrown chinook tastes like.

I wouldn't have any hesitation in adding several grams per litre at flameout in fact i suspect that is what is going to occur next weekend with a heap of fresh chinook straight from the bine :lol:

Definitely suited to pale ales, golden ales, amber/brown ales and IPAs.
 

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Whilst 40g may be overdoing it in some people view,
a classic piece of advice from Palmer's book is 'try putting in half'

Then it will only taste half as bad, or half as good; and you can adjust your view for the next batch!

I expect you'll be pleaseantly suprised by the Cascade one. I've done a couple of full Cascade brews
and they come out veeerryy nice. Cascade is a nice hop IMHO.

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Hi

B-Saaz are not strictly suited to Pilseners. Normal Saaz is suited but they are two separate hops. B-Saaz is more fruity, a true pilsener has little fruitiness.

B-Saaz is more suited to fruity ales than a Pilsener so you will be fine.

Mark
I disagree completely with this. B-Saaz is a great pilsner hop. Sure not if you want to make a bohemian pilsener but it suits what is often referred to as a new world pilsner beautifully.
Not a Saaz clone by any means but not just a hop for pale ales at all.
A number of lovely pilsners from NZ and Oz are using it.
 

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Thanks for the input guys, that palmers half philosophy will be kept in mind for future brews. Good advice.

Robbo, I tasted the cascade pale when I was taking the SG and even then I could tell its going to be good. It will be the first brew through my newly acquired keg set up as well. Cant wait!
 

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B Saaz is what the general consensus my homegrown chinook tastes like.
I wouldn't have any hesitation in adding several grams per litre at flameout in fact i suspect that is what is going to occur next weekend with a heap of fresh chinook straight from the bine :lol:
Definitely suited to pale ales, golden ales, amber/brown ales and IPAs.
+1
Terrific in a Pale Ale- go for it.

Stick your nose in the bag, let that guide you.


Edit: Less is more? Rubbish, less is less.
 

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