Saflager S-23

[MattC]

guess what?/?

SG is down from OG and its now bubbling through the airlock!!!

smells OK too

Thanks to all who contributed info and advice
Cheers

 

[KGB]

MattC - so how long did it take for some decent activity to start?

 

[MattC]

guess what?/?

SG is down from OG and its now bubbling through the airlock!!!

smells OK too

Thanks to all who contributed info and advice
Cheers

Well KGB it seems to have settled down again. It bubbled a bit yesterday when i took the lid off the fermenter and put it back on, but now it has stopped again. If i didnt do a SG test I would have sworn the fermentation had not started.

I will give it another 3 days and transfer into 2nd fermenter. Prob leave it for another 5 days and test SG again. If the same for 2 days then I will bottle it.

Cheers

 

[MattC]

Well to all those who replied to my original post, i have just tasted this brew after 14 days in the bottle. if you dont know my recipe see my first post.

Well what did it taste like???

Answer: absolutely terrible, the worst beer i have ever tasted. It was like drinking a glass of fine mud mixed with water, with not a hint of hops and absolutley no head at all, no matter how much you tried to work it out of the bottle.

I will leave it for another month to see if it improves but I am not hopeful at all.

What advice do you all have?? Whats to blame??

Too much malto? I thought that was for head retention, so how does that explain no head at all???

Too high temps for saflager S-23???

I know i shouldnt throw beer away, but it is close, very close, to undrinkable!!!!

Any one for a case swap??? LOL

 

[Bingo]

I'm currently doing a draught kit and using the S-23 yeast.

Just a quick question.

As this yeast ferments at a lower temp, at what temp does it die?

Just curious.

Thanks in advance.

 

[petesbrew]

I'm sure someone else would know more, but here's the link to their site.

http://www.fermentis.com/FO/EN/06-Ales/30-10_product_hb.asp

 

[PostModern]

Well to all those who replied to my original post, i have just tasted this brew after 14 days in the bottle. if you dont know my recipe see my first post.

Well what did it taste like???

Answer: absolutely terrible, the worst beer i have ever tasted. It was like drinking a glass of fine mud mixed with water, with not a hint of hops and absolutley no head at all, no matter how much you tried to work it out of the bottle.

I will leave it for another month to see if it improves but I am not hopeful at all.

What advice do you all have?? Whats to blame??

Too much malto? I thought that was for head retention, so how does that explain no head at all???

Too high temps for saflager S-23???

I know i shouldnt throw beer away, but it is close, very close, to undrinkable!!!!

Any one for a case swap??? LOL

Is it carbonated?

If so, put it somewhere cold (0-6C) for a month or 6 weeks, then try again. I reckon it will still taste foul with all that maltodextrin in there. What was your FG?

(EDIT: Oh gross! Look at the recipe for Kilkenny http://www.countrybrewer.com.au/webcontent40.htm 500g maltodextrin... ouch!)

 

[Bingo]

I'm sure someone else would know more, but here's the link to their site.

http://www.fermentis.com/FO/EN/06-Ales/30-10_product_hb.asp

Thanks mate.


Umm do you think that it's a big problem that i didn't re-hydrate the yeast before i put it in??? The temp was 13-14 deg.

I just read that if you put the yeast in without re-hydrating the temp should be at least 20! Did i stuff it?

 

[mikem108]

Forget about using lager yeasts unless you can keep the temp at 10-12 or lower and then use two packs,instead use a clean ale instead when starting out (US-05) and then keep it at 18-22C when you get the hang of it move onto lager yeasts. If you rehydrate at 20C, bring it down in the fridge to pitching temperature, If you keep your yeast packets in the fridge it should be OK to rehydrate at 13-14C, I've not had problems doing this

 

[Bingo]

Well i'll check it when i get home, hopefully it's working.

If worst comes to worst i have some safale (can't remember the number) yeast for my next brew that i could use, which will be a pale ale!

 

[Bingo]

Just checked it.

It's scummed up and is bubbling from the airlock! So no problems there!