Recipe suggestion/comments.

[glenos]

Hi,
I have been working on my technique and control and brewing a pico-brew (5L) of Dr Smurto's Golden Ale with the following recipe:
0.60 kg Pale Ale Malt
0.25 kg Caramalt
0.25 kg Wheat Malt

BIAB mash at 66°C for 75 mins and then boil, 60 min, with Amarillo 8.2% AA:
5.5g @ 60 min
3.8 g @10 min
3.8 g @5 min
3.5 g dry hop

Ferment at 18°C with US-05.

Brew mate says this should be OG 1.048, FG 1.012 and 33.6 IBU, whilst I am not unhappy with the results it is lacking hops hops and a bit too sweet. I also wanted to try some Enigma I picked up at the last Hobat Brewers club meeting.

So I am thinking of modifying the recipe to;
0.75 kg Pale Ale Malt
0.25 kg Caramalt
0.25 kg Wheat Malt

BIAB mash at 66°C for 75 mins and then boil, 60 min, with Enigma 15.2% AA:
4 g @ 60 min
4 g @10 min
4 g dry hop

Brew mate says this should be OG 1.055, FG 1.014 and 42.1 IBU

A penny for your thoughts?

 

[manticle]

Typo or really 250g of caramalt with 825g base malt?

 

[glenos]

Really, this is in the brewmate recipe. And here, http://aussiehomebrewer.com/recipe/502-drsmurtos-golden-ale/

 

[indica86]

Read the original recipe.
It has 4 kg malt to 250g caramunich.
Yours is too sweet because the ratios are all wrong. Crystal / caramel type malts leave a lot of sweetness after fermentation. I once used 500g in a 23 litre pale and that was too sweet for me.
I am surprised you can drink yours.

 

[manticle]

Original recipe has 250 cara + 5ish kg base. Your proportions are way out. Think of it like reducing a muffin dough recipe to 10% original size but leaving the same amount of sugar.

 

[indica86]

KIT VERSION
1 can Thomas Coopers Sparkling Ale
1 can Coopers Wheat Malt
250g Caramalt (or other light crystal)
15g Amarillo @ 15, 5 and dry hop.
Yeast - US05

 

[glenos]

Read the original recipe.
It has 4 kg malt to 250g caramunich.
Yours is too sweet because the ratios are all wrong. Crystal / caramel type malts leave a lot of sweetness after fermentation. I once used 500g in a 23 litre pale and that was too sweet for me.
I am surprised you can drink yours.

Original recipe has 250 cara + 5ish kg base. Your proportions are way out. Think of it like reducing a muffin dough recipe to 10% original size but leaving the same amount of sugar.

I did read the original recipe and have kept the percentage of each malt aproximately the same. Mine has no caramunich.

I have 250 g (22%) of caramalt with 650 g (55%) of pale malt, which are in close proportion to the original recipe (19% and 56% respectively), I bumped the caramalt up a bit as there is no caramunich.

The new recipe I have proposed is;
Pale Malt 60%
Caramalt 20%
Wheat Malt 20%

 

[manticle]

You may want to check your percentage calculation. Your caramalt (similar enough to caramunich) is way out of proportion and the likely culprit of your overly sweet brew.

Dr smurto -~5000g:250g. Yours -around 825g: 250g.

Doesn't equate. 250g in 20+ Litres, not 5.

 

[indica86]

2.4kg Pilsner = Base malt
0.8 kg Munich = Base malt
0.8 kg wheat = Base Malt
0.25 Caramunich = Specialty malt

4kg base malt to 0.25kg spec

You used
0.60 kg Pale Ale Malt = base malt
0.25 kg Caramalt = specialty malt / caramel / crystal etc
0.25 kg Wheat Malt = base malt

0.825kg Base to 0.25kg spec

The caramel / crystal type malt amount has not reduced at all, but the base malt has.

 

[glenos]

OK now I see where the confusion is coming from the Brewmate recipe is different to the one listed on here.

The brewmate recipe has caramalt listed not Munich, have a look at the screen shot I have attached to post 3. or here, http://www.brewmate.net/recipes/W9kmfcMvBQoq581MmjKM.xml

Where as this brewmate recipe matches the one posted on AHB, http://www.brewmate.net/recipes/kiDgoMOenFmZGf5NO8do.xml

 

[manticle]

Really confusing. There are brewmate posts everywhere.
Just type the malts and amounts you actually used.

 

[indica86]

I'm confused. Going to take the dog for a walk and have a beer, that should help.

 

[glenos]

post one is what I used and I now realise why it is sweet, its not terrible sweet but you wouldn;t want to drink too many in a row, kind of like Ol Speckled Hen.

 

[manticle]

If post 1 is what you used then over use of cara is the culprit as originally suggested. I think you made an error in calculation or data entry somewhere.