Politics

[Ducatiboy stu]

Well I sure aint giving up steak to save the planet. I would rather get rid of a few oxygen theifs that I know.

 

[mash head]

Doesn't it depend upon your definition of food. I see it as the basic building blocks that all life is built around. How much carbon are we made of. How did we become made of it?? we ate it which was capture by plants originally.

 

[mash head]

Really then fertilizer cannot be called plant food, its just a bunch of chemicals that plants need to photosynthesise. The main ones being N P K. Carnivorous plants don't eat they just make use of some chemicals that are extracted from the dead bodies of their prey, their food is created via sunlight and co2 technically.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Creationism.

 

[OzPaleAle]

Creation Theory.

Yes a completely logical explanation of how we ended up here..........

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

That and Scientology.....

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Except that no one can explain Tom Cruise

 

[manticle]

Doesn't it depend upon your definition of food. I see it as the basic building blocks that all life is built around. How much carbon are we made of. How did we become made of it?? we ate it which was capture by plants originally.

Um.....no

Carbon is food? DNA? Nucleobases? Oxygen? Yeah but nah.

Perhaps you think it's OK for fundamentalist nutjobs to redefine the biology of plants. I don't.

 

[Mardoo]

Plants photosynthesise in order to make their food. They use Carbon Dioxide in this process, as well as light. To refer to CO2 as plant food is to not understand what you are talking about which I think was Mardoo's point.

Yep

 

[Liam_snorkel]

It's beside the point anyway. The point is that we are disrupting the carbon cycle which our species evolved to survive in, by digging up and burning 300 million year old carbon deposits. The last time atmospheric CO2 was as high as it is currently was at least 3 million years ago, when modern humans hadn't evolved yet. That is a big experiment to be performing on the planet.
meh.

semi related - this is a good listen regarding ice ages.

 

[manticle]

I think part of RUA's implied point is that the plants will eat all the atmospheric carbon dioxide so it must be a good thing.

Super smart they must be.

 

[pcmfisher]

Danny Nalliah is a dodgy prick - here's confirmation of the LNP preference story

I don't see any option this year but to donkey vote, or vote below the line.

He has to be anti islam as he is a Christian minister.

What a disgraceful thing religion in politics is.

 

[spog]

heard on the radio news that while having his make up done for debate last night Kev gobbed off at the make up assistant,she tweeted it but it has since been removed. apparently he was rude and said , you must remember you are only a make up assistant.
hmm,... ..cheers...spog....

 

[Liam_snorkel]

any chance she made it up...?

sorry that was terrible.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

As Tony Abbott would say " will you just shut up "

 

[mash head]

Um.....no

Carbon is food? DNA? Nucleobases? Oxygen? Yeah but nah.

Perhaps you think it's OK for fundamentalist nutjobs to redefine the biology of plants. I don't.

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As I understand it co2 is turned directly into sugars via chemical reaction with sunlight and chlorophyl. Plants create their own food by using the carbon atom from co2 and rearranging it into a sugar molecule so as I see it co2 is far more credible as plant food than fertilizer. I think the Greens are a bunch of nut jobs personally and have no info on the man who originally made the plant food coment.

 

[Dave70]

He has to be anti islam as he is a Christian minister.

What a disgraceful thing religion in politics is.

Sorted.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

If farmers were allowed to be part of an ETS think about how much carbon we could capture in pastures, the animals that eat those pastures and the soil microbes that feed the plants. But no cows fart and that's way worse apparently.

you mean this?
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/reducing-carbon/carbon-farming-initiative

 

[manticle]

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As I understand it co2 is turned directly into sugars via chemical reaction with sunlight and chlorophyl. Plants create their own food by using the carbon atom from co2 and rearranging it into a sugar molecule so as I see it co2 is far more credible as plant food than fertilizer. I think the Greens are a bunch of nut jobs personally and have no info on the man who originally made the plant food coment.

I know how photosynthesis works but cheers. I did Year 12 Biology too.

If you credit Danny Nalliah or anyone who is associated with him as less nutty than the Greens, I'm not sure I can help.

 

[Bridges]

Much the same as me, the preferences always amuse me though as the libs will always put Labor last no matter what, where as the labor party will put "australians against further immigration, christian democrats, family first and other backward looking, reactionary geese" at the bottom with the libs above them. I don't see why both sides don't do that.

Wrong

Liberal party is now apparently preferencing rise up australia party over greens and labor in some seats. Does anyone have any more info to confirm, deny or justify? Rise up is run by a guy who believes black saturday bushfires were a result of god's wrath in response to Victorian abortion laws.

How either major party could not consider these guys kooks of the lowest order and preference number is something that leaves me scratching my head. Greens are fringe dwellers but Danny Naliah is A-OK?

Must not follow any parties how to vote cards.
I've been trying my best to stay away from this thread too. It can be way to frustrating and depressing.
Unlike threads on perfected IPA recipes... Looking for one now... That would be an uplifting and inspiring story to warm the cockles of my heart.