Politics

[Dave70]

Where's the choice?
By your thought process that means a sex worker should have no right to deny a client. She's a sex worker there for she should do sex work for anyone that wants to make use of her services even if the client makes her uncomfortable or wants services which she doesn't want to do for her own moral reasons.
Yep its the polar opposite end of the spectrum but the issue is still an issue of choice - or rather the removal of.

Though I fail to see the correlation, if the client requests an act that violates the law, she is well within her rights to deny her services. If she refuses to turn a trick due to the customer being a fat, smelly grub with a odd looking penis, and lets him know it, he may be indeed entitled to launch some form of action that he was discriminated against.
We live in such an increasingly litigious society I'm sure stranger things have happened.

You just seem to me to be suggesting churches have the right to discriminate and call it 'belief'. Maby I'm reading it wrong. Sorry if that the case.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I think some churches do believe in belief as a way to discriminate. The church I was brought up with ( Uniting) is prob one of the most progressive ones of the more traditional ones. They have GLBT ministers.

I also personally think some Churches are hypocrtical to the extreme. I find it abhorent that a church can deny the existence of gay people but protect peodaphiles......

Our constitution does not allow religion to set laws but does allow religious freedom

 

[pcmfisher]

Who wants to get married in a church anyway?

According to someone on Insight last night now only 30% do iirc , and falling.

@Komodo, you do know they are not trying to make same sex marriage compulsory?

 

[punkin]

In the case of the sex worker, the same as a shopkeeper or publican, they have the right to refuse service to anyone they choose. PROVIDED it's not discriminatory. They can chuck you out for not wearing shoes, or for any other reason that is applied to everyone. Or they can refuse service and not give a reason.

Therefore, they are perfectly entitled to deny service to the fat smelly grub with the weird dick, but they'd be stupid to give a reason. They can NOT however refuse service to him because of his skin colour, sexuality, religous beliefs yadayada.

There are specific things that are prescribed by aussie discimination laws..

http://www.humanrights.gov.au/guide-australias-anti-discrimination-laws

Unhygenic is not protected.

Therefore churches could refuse to marry whoever they want, so long as it couldn't be proved that the refusal was discriminatory. And i'd say it would be tested in law within the first month.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Actually.....to get married in a Catholic church you have to be a Catholic....

 

[komodo]

@Komodo, you do know they are not trying to make same sex marriage compulsory?

LOL I'll cop that.

 

[pcmfisher]

Religion is code for discrimination. And they get away with it.

What would religion be if it could not discriminate against others that didn't happen to believe in the same delusion?

 

[kalbarluke]

Actually.....to get married in a Catholic church you have to be a Catholic....

This is only half true. To get married in a Catholic Church only one person of the couple needs to be Catholic. I was married in a Catholic Church but I am not catholic; my wife is.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Ok. Maybe things have changed. I grew up in an area with a high Italian population and to get married in the Catholic church both had to be Catholic.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

@Komodo, you do know they are not trying to make same sex marriage compulsory?

Why cant GLBT be unhappily married like everyone else

 

[Liam_snorkel]

 

[Dave70]

meh..

 

[Liam_snorkel]

I wonder if this would be acceptable. The preferences are still legible.

 

[sponge]

^^

Looks like the winner of the election

 

[Liam_snorkel]

^^

Looks like the winner of the erection

Fixed that for you

 

[sponge]

and WHAT a winner!

Veins and all..

 

[nu_brew]

I scrutineered at a state election.

Instructions were if one box above the line was marked (one box only) no matter what the mark - tick, cross, 1 etc it was valid vote.

A ballot with a cock and balls neatly drawn in the Family First box was counted...

 

[manticle]

So Fielding became senator fielding due to the amount of cock that came his way?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

He took it as a suppositry....

 

[Liam_snorkel]

This is what happens when an ABC cameraman starts a 'band'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7BTKTOwLE