KegLand Questions and Answers

[KegLand-com-au]

Any chance for the dimensions of the options? Will it be 30L and 60L brimful volumes? Any chance of a larger size too in the order of 80-100L for triple or quad batches? You sell a 100L brewzilla so that would cater for peeps wanting to ferment a full batch size....

We did not have plans to produce this new type of fermenter in the 100L size. For people going to that size the best would be to go with a BrewBuilt tank or if you want a cheap option then just use this 118L Kegmenter.

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

We did not have plans to produce this new type of fermenter in the 100L size. For people going to that size the best would be to go with a BrewBuilt tank or if you want a cheap option then just use this 118L Kegmenter.

I was eyeing off the 118L kegmenter myself actually, but there are no racking arms in 2" triclamp size readily available. I know I can use the floating dip tube but was more thinking for rigging up a CIP loop a racking device that can drain out near the bottom of the kegmenter utilising one of the 2" ports would make it ideal. Are you aware of anything on the market or is this something KL could bring in to suit the 118L kegmenter? I have a 58L and it's heavy enough to lug around and invert for CIP so figure the 118L is just going to end up doing my back.

 

[Paddy]

The diameter and height of the 30L and 60L are almost identical to the Current FermZilla Tri-Conical 27L and 55L sizes.

Love your work team Kegland - sign me up!!

 

[clickeral]

I was eyeing off the 118L kegmenter myself actually, but there are no racking arms in 2" triclamp size readily available. I know I can use the floating dip tube but was more thinking for rigging up a CIP loop a racking device that can drain out near the bottom of the kegmenter utilising one of the 2" ports would make it ideal. Are you aware of anything on the market or is this something KL could bring in to suit the 118L kegmenter? I have a 58L and it's heavy enough to lug around and invert for CIP so figure the 118L is just going to end up doing my back.

1.5 to 2" short adapter with a 1.5" racking arm?

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

1.5 to 2" short adapter with a 1.5" racking arm?

Too long and won’t fit in the fridge

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

This is not easy to solve. To get the lowest DO a lot of customers fill the cans up quite a bit.

It's difficult to totoally eliminate spashes when the can is moving so fast to be honest.

I normally just move the machine outside and give it a quick spray with the hose and this is fairly quick way to clean down.

I was able to solve it with cardboard, some pieces of Perspex and magnets could be a great solution?

 

[Ballaratguy]

I don’t have a cannular canner but with mine I made a splash guard similar to the cannular one stops spray when the can is spinning and I have a hand towel that I wrap around the can holder th catch the drips from the splash guard I also have a hinged door instead of lift up
Just chuck the towel in the washing machine when I think of it

 

[j_da_man]

Kegland team, I have about 7 of the duotight flow control ball locks. Cleaning and reassembling keezer yesterday I found this issue (see inside). Looks to be a seal gone haywire. I assume this one is toast now?

 

[crowmanz]

This is still coming along but due to some extra features that we are now looking at it might be delayed until the end of the year. I am very sorry about this but hopefully the new features are woth the wait.

Is the ETA on benchtop kegerators still end of the year?

My original series x has recently died so weighing up replacement options.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Is the ETA on benchtop kegerators still end of the year?

My original series x has recently died so weighing up replacement options.

Firstly let me help you with that one. What was your order number for your kegerator. It's quite rare for these to die. We get a small percentage of them that get a gas leak or have a refrigeration issue but that normally surfaces in the first 1-3 months. After this period failures are close to zero. We also hate seeing products go into landfill so firstly lets solve the issue you have with your Series X as it's probably something quite small and easy to resolve.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Kegland team, I have about 7 of the duotight flow control ball locks. Cleaning and reassembling keezer yesterday I found this issue (see inside). Looks to be a seal gone haywire. I assume this one is toast now?

It looks like one of the two o-rings has pushed down the hole. This can be caused if a beer line that is not pushed into the duotight fitting squarely.

The esiest way to fix this is just to get a nail or something similar and push the o-ring back into position.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

I was able to solve it with cardboard, some pieces of Perspex and magnets could be a great solution?View attachment 125359View attachment 125360

Nice one. That is quite a low cost solution and easy to install and throw away when you are done.

 

[crowmanz]

Firstly let me help you with that one. What was your order number for your kegerator. It's quite rare for these to die. We get a small percentage of them that get a gas leak or have a refrigeration issue but that normally surfaces in the first 1-3 months. After this period failures are close to zero. We also hate seeing products go into landfill so firstly lets solve the issue you have with your Series X as it's probably something quite small and easy to resolve.

Yeah I think I've narrowed it down to a gas leak, it showed up after a recent move. I let the kegerator rest for most the week then had it on for a couple days and was cooling before one morning coming out to the front panel showing ambient temps. Compressor seems to run when turned on but no cooling.

Kegland order number is 000066748

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Yeah I think I've narrowed it down to a gas leak, it showed up after a recent move. I let the kegerator rest for most the week then had it on for a couple days and was cooling before one morning coming out to the front panel showing ambient temps. Compressor seems to run when turned on but no cooling.

Kegland order number is 000066748

This order number doesn't seem to exist on our system. Was this definitely purchased from KegLand? Normally the cage over the back of the compressor would protect the copper pipes from damage in a house move. With that said if it's moved with enough force then it's possible to crack one of the copper pipes.

Re-gassing a fridge is generally not economical as it's so hard to find a slow leak. With that said if you know where the leak is then it's actually a really simple job to fix the leak and re-gas. How did you identify the leak?

 

[crowmanz]

This order number doesn't seem to exist on our system. Was this definitely purchased from KegLand? Normally the cage over the back of the compressor would protect the copper pipes from damage in a house move. With that said if it's moved with enough force then it's possible to crack one of the copper pipes.

Re-gassing a fridge is generally not economical as it's so hard to find a slow leak. With that said if you know where the leak is then it's actually a really simple job to fix the leak and re-gas. How did you identify the leak?

I got the order number from my kegland account, attached is a screenshot. It was in the older system with purchase in November 2019. Searching my emails comes out with ref MG 100046001

It had a pretty easy move. It was only had a short trip and with actual movers, compared to my last move 3 years ago which it survived that I did myself that was about 125km on my trailer.

I haven't found the gas leak, but based on troubleshooting it seems the most likely. None of the other faults seem to fit: the front control panel works without issue, the temp reads the same as external temp probes, and the still runs but without cooling. Initially thought it might be the main board but given the control panel works and it's reading correct temps I ruled it out.

Any other possibilities?

 

[KegLand-com-au]

I got the order number from my kegland account, attached is a screenshot. It was in the older system with purchase in November 2019. Searching my emails comes out with ref MG 100046001

It had a pretty easy move. It was only had a short trip and with actual movers, compared to my last move 3 years ago which it survived that I did myself that was about 125km on my trailer.

I haven't found the gas leak, but based on troubleshooting it seems the most likely. None of the other faults seem to fit: the front control panel works without issue, the temp reads the same as external temp probes, and the still runs but without cooling. Initially thought it might be the main board but given the control panel works and it's reading correct temps I ruled it out.

Any other possibilities?

Great. Thanks for that. It looks like the order MG 100046001 was a damage in transit kegerator in 2019 whereby I think the unit got discounted due to the damage going by the notes here from back in 2019. If you do not know where the leak is then it can be very difficult to find sometimes and the fridge is probably not economical to repair.

Even though its was sold at a discount and its almost 5 years out of warranty perhaps the easiest thing for us to do is to give you a discount on a replacement fridge body. For example this unit here is the replacement fridge body only:
https://kegland.com.au/products/series-x-kegerator-fridge-only
If you like what I can do is mark this down by 50% if you think that helps meaning you would get a new fridge for $232.50. That will get you up and running at the least possible cost. Are you still using the same "@hotmail.com" email address?

 

[crowmanz]

Great. Thanks for that. It looks like the order MG 100046001 was a damage in transit kegerator in 2019 whereby I think the unit got discounted due to the damage going by the notes here from back in 2019. If you do not know where the leak is then it can be very difficult to find sometimes and the fridge is probably not economical to repair.

Even though its was sold at a discount and its almost 5 years out of warranty perhaps the easiest thing for us to do is to give you a discount on a replacement fridge body. For example this unit here is the replacement fridge body only:
https://kegland.com.au/products/series-x-kegerator-fridge-only
If you like what I can do is mark this down by 50% if you think that helps meaning you would get a new fridge for $232.50. That will get you up and running at the least possible cost. Are you still using the same "@hotmail.com" email address?

Yeah it had some damage in transit on the way to me that you guys offered me a discount on rather than sending back and replacing.

Yep still using the same email address. I won't say no to discount!

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Yeah it had some damage in transit on the way to me that you guys offered me a discount on rather than sending back and replacing.

Yep still using the same email address. I won't say no to discount!

No worries. I have created a special discount code that works just for you which is "VIP-DRIG" so add the product to your cart then use this discount code and the replacement fridge unit will be supplied at 50% off.

 

[crowmanz]

No worries. I have created a special discount code that works just for you which is "VIP-DRIG" so add the product to your cart then use this discount code and the replacement fridge unit will be supplied at 50% off.

Cheers legends, order placed

 

[djebel]

@KegLand-com-au

I've got a mate who is currently renovating his kitchen (not his idea ), and he wants to fit an under bench Benchy system. On the page for this unit, you say: "We would recommend purchasing a Billi tap item code number: 852217 from another supplier."

Any tips where? Because our combined google-fu is proving inadequate for the task. I've managed to find a mention of said item on the Billi UK website, but that's the closest we've got.

I appreciate yo may want/have to be careful recommending specific businesses, but I'm clean out of ideas.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

@KegLand-com-au

I've got a mate who is currently renovating his kitchen (not his idea ), and he wants to fit an under bench Benchy system. On the page for this unit, you say: "We would recommend purchasing a Billi tap item code number: 852217 from another supplier."

Any tips where? Because our combined google-fu is proving inadequate for the task. I've managed to find a mention of said item on the Billi UK website, but that's the closest we've got.

I appreciate yo may want/have to be careful recommending specific businesses, but I'm clean out of ideas.

We actually need to update the advice on that one as we have now got this tap in stock:
https://kegland.com.au/products/kitchen-mixer-tap-4-in-1-hot-cold-chilled-sparking-stainless-steel

This one above is one tap that you can use for both your hot and cold and chilled and carbonated so you have all 4 products coming to the one faucet. This is quite a new product but it might be worth asking the kegland EU team when this comes into Europe:
https://kegland.eu/

 

[djebel]

We actually need to update the advice on that one as we have now got this tap in stock:
https://kegland.com.au/products/kitchen-mixer-tap-4-in-1-hot-cold-chilled-sparking-stainless-steel

This one above is one tap that you can use for both your hot and cold and chilled and carbonated so you have all 4 products coming to the one faucet. This is quite a new product but it might be worth asking the kegland EU team when this comes into Europe:
https://kegland.eu/

Thanks, although I should point out that I'm in Australia . I'll pass it on.

For completeness, what option would you recommend for a two-way tap: just chilled and sparking.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Thanks, although I should point out that I'm in Australia . I'll pass it on.

For completeness, what option would you recommend for a two-way tap: just chilled and sparking.

Sorry about that. I thought when you contacted Billy UK that you would probably be in the UK.

When it comes to just two way taps there are plenty of options.

https://waterfilter.net.au/products/dual-outlet-water-filter-tap

something like this would do the job.

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

@KegLand-com-au have you guys been looking into a proper CIP pump, one that has good pressure and flow capability but can perform in hot temp cleaners? I prefer to run my PBW at 55-60C so your bucket blaster is not suitable. I have one that is working for now but it does sometimes cut out on what I think it overload so not sure how much longer it will last.... be good to have a solid option on the market for those of us who like to clean properly

 

[KegLand-com-au]

@KegLand-com-au have you guys been looking into a proper CIP pump, one that has good pressure and flow capability but can perform in hot temp cleaners? I prefer to run my PBW at 55-60C so your bucket blaster is not suitable. I have one that is working for now but it does sometimes cut out on what I think it overload so not sure how much longer it will last.... be good to have a solid option on the market for those of us who like to clean properly

The main issue you will have is that most CIP spray balls require quite high flow and pressure. This puts you into a category where you have to use a large pump like this:
https://kegland.com.au/products/commercial-cip-pump-cart-3t-h-18m-lift-0-75kw

As you can see this is 750 watts and this is really what you need to drive most commercial CIP spray balls. If you wanted to use a small device like this :
https://kegland.com.au/products/low-volume-cip-spray-rotor-and-mash-sparge-recirculation-spray-valve
This will enable you to use a small pump but it will take longer to clean.

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

The main issue you will have is that most CIP spray balls require quite high flow and pressure. This puts you into a category where you have to use a large pump like this:
https://kegland.com.au/products/commercial-cip-pump-cart-3t-h-18m-lift-0-75kw

As you can see this is 750 watts and this is really what you need to drive most commercial CIP spray balls. If you wanted to use a small device like this :
https://kegland.com.au/products/low-volume-cip-spray-rotor-and-mash-sparge-recirculation-spray-valve
This will enable you to use a small pump but it will take longer to clean.

Yeah OK - was wondering if something in the middle could be developed to find a sweet spot. Those commercial pumps seem to be way overkill for homebrew stuff.

I have this pump and it drives a 1/2" SS spray ball (the SS Brewtech "micro" one) great and cleans kegs and kegmenters wiht a 10-15min wash cycle. I use it in submersible mode and am noticing the motor thermal cut out trips from time to time using it in hot fluids (50-55C) even though it is "rated" to 100C (suspect this is just the process fluid rating, not "ambient" conditions rating of the electric motor.
https://www.amazon.com.au/SHYSKY-DC55B-24160S-Submersible-Circulation-Pressurization/dp/B07VHRLPP4

Given this pump specs clearly can handle the spray ball I have it seems like it is achievable, with some minor tweaks to allow hotter temps etc...

I have your low flow spray ball for my Mash tun as I clean that with the 25W triclamp pump you sell and that works great, but the low flow spray ball doesn't work on kegs or kegmenters as for CIP they need to be inverted and that spray ball doesn't work upside down on the end of a piece of threaded pipe...

 

[rodsfromday]

Hi. I am new and only starting my brewing journey. I have a dual keg tap set-up. I am looking at getting the 30L fermzilla. Any videos of the actual brewing process in one of them please?

 

[sp0rk]

Hi. I am new and only starting my brewing journey. I have a dual keg tap set-up. I am looking at getting the 30L fermzilla. Any videos of the actual brewing process in one of them please?

Malt Miller's video on the Fermzilla is a pretty good rundown

 

[David Benjamin]

Sorry about that. I thought when you contacted Billy UK that you would probably be in the UK.

When it comes to just two way taps there are plenty of options.

https://waterfilter.net.au/products/dual-outlet-water-filter-tap

something like this would do the job.

No worries at all! Thanks for sharing the link—that dual outlet tap looks like a solid option and should work nicely for a simple two-way setup.

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

@KegLand-com-au what is the max temperature for your thunder express powered spray bottle if using it to push through cleaner in beer lines etc?