Illegal in WA to swap beer for services

[warra48]

I wonder would it still be illegal to swap for example a microwave oven for a packet of pumpkin seeds, and slab of beer thrown in for free. h34r:

They'll still get you, you won't be able to separate the two transactions from a legal viewpoint. I'm sure the law will see it as an attempt to circumvent the legislation.

 

[madpierre06]

Up there with their revenue raising speed cameras fining people for 1 or 2 k's over... there are far more important issues they should be dealing with than **** like this IMO.

I've been told that out west way they have already subbied out this service to private contractors...although would want to see proof before believing this one.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I find it puzzling that a govt would employ members of a short staffed police force in the investigations of these transactions, there could be no witnesses, unless some one was stupid enough to incriminate them selves by fessing up to the said transaction.
Complete waste of time and money, only thing they can do is shut down any sites doing this.

 

[S.E]

I wonder would it still be illegal to swap for example a microwave oven for a packet of pumpkin seeds, and slab of beer thrown in for free. h34r:

Went to a motorcycle rally many years ago and the club had set up a beer tent and were selling raffle tickets with a free beer of your choice with each one.

[SIZE=11pt]I often see members on here giving away brewing equipment for “a couple bottles of your finest”. [/SIZE]

 

[madpierre06]

FS: flkof dflljdafl dafkadfi sdladsoi FOACOYF...do we add this to the unofficial list of acronyms? Let 'em prove it.

 

[warra48]

I find it puzzling that a govt would employ members of a short staffed police force in the investigations of these transactions, there could be no witnesses, unless some one was stupid enough to incriminate them selves by fessing up to the said transaction.
Complete waste of time and money, only thing they can do is shut down any sites doing this.

I'll bet it's just a "scare them" exercise, and I'd lay odds there is zero to nil enforcement.

A bit like the ads from the nice people in the Tax Office each June, quoting lists of people they're "targeting" this year for compliance. Never happens individually. Almost all audits are targeted on the basis of computer produced "exception reports". So, unless you're stupid enough to go so wide out of reality that you stand out like the proverbial, you'll probably get away with most of your schemes.

 

[nala]

I wouldn't worry about it,our chief of police can't catch cold.
According to the Sunday Times he doesn't know how to tackle the rising crime rates !
He is on a bench warming exercise for the next 18 months after being given a new contract.

 

[fraser_john]

People should try setting up a beer/work swap using the onion version of Facebook, "could" be harder to shut down as it would not necessarily be configured to be Australian based.... https://www.facebookcorewwwi.onion/?_rdr (hint use TOR browser)

 

[S.E]

And I bet you thought being a plumber was all about hot chicks, rather than **** filled pipes...

I was called to give a quote for plumbing and electrical maintenance at a large fitness centre once. The sinks in the male changing room were prone to blocking and they wanted to change the traps and some of the pipework.

In the female changing rooms there were several uplighters behind mirrors that didn’t work and needed replacing. So I could view what needed doing the receptionist went in to the female changing rooms and called out a warning that a man was coming in.

When I went in I couldn’t help noticing that many of the fitter young women really didn’t give a damn who was coming in and carried on showering and changing regardless, happy to show off the results of all hard work they had been putting in to keeping in shape.

Anyway I got the job and sent a plumber to fix the sinks but decided to handle replacing the uplighters myself. Very distracting environment though, took a lot longer than expected to fix those lights.

 

[Yob]

I wonder would it still be illegal to swap for example a microwave oven for a packet of pumpkin seeds, and slab of beer thrown in for free. h34r:

it would be called an implied sale and generally just as much trouble

 

[contrarian]

I'd say there's a big difference between exchanging goods and services for beer informally through existing networks and setting up a site to encourage it between complete strangers.

One the police can happily turn a blind eye to but the other is just a bridge too far to be ignored.

 

[Parks]

Paying for things with beer/goods/services isn't illegal.

Not declaring the beer/goods/services as income is.

 

[Dave70]

And I bet you thought being a plumber was all about hot chicks, rather than **** filled pipes...

There's a rather off colour joke lurking in there somewhere. But this is a family show.

 

[Dave70]

I wonder would it still be illegal to swap for example a microwave oven for a packet of pumpkin seeds, and slab of beer thrown in for free. h34r:

I attended a 'rally' when when much younger put on by some fellows with an fondness for Harley Davidson motorcycles, speed and wearing leather vests.
One could purchase a fist full of tickets from a man near the entry and then find another a man who would exchange these tickets for cans of beer.
Though obviously highly sofistimacated, even at the time, I somehow doubted this system had successfully circumvented liquor licencing laws.

 

[Bribie G]

Does Bartercard still exist? I thought that cashless exchange of goods and services was their model.
So OK for businesses but not for we Serfs.

 

[contrarian]

Surely the issue would be alcohol rather than barter. It's a highly regulated and protected industry!

 

[danestead]

I don't even know why you would want to swap beer for anything anyway. Money was invented to swap for stuff more easily. Why would you want to have to go to a bottle shop to buy someone beer to exchange for something else?

 

[Dave70]

Does Bartercard still exist? I thought that cashless exchange of goods and services was their model.
So OK for businesses but not for we Serfs.

Stop moaning.
Open a lemonade stall in your driveway or something and apply for an ABN.

 

[Droopy Brew]

I don't even know why you would want to swap beer for anything anyway. Money was invented to swap for stuff more easily. Why would you want to have to go to a bottle shop to buy someone beer to exchange for something else?

You dont live in North Queensland do you mate? The currency exchange is not 1 fo1 in the beer economy.

Say I wanted to have a 20sqm driveway laid. I could go through normal channels and pay with this so call money and it will cost me the best part of 5k and take 6 weeks to get done.

Or

I could go to the pub anytime after 11am and yell out "who wants to lay my driveway for 5 cartons of Gold" and I would have a freshly laid driveway by the end of the weekend for under $250 plus a drive to the bottle-o. I would also be obliged to drink half of one of those cartons with him - a small price to pay.

We got **** sorted- you can have your money.

 

[justatad]

I was called to give a quote for plumbing and electrical maintenance at a large fitness centre once. The sinks in the male changing room were prone to blocking and they wanted to change the traps and some of the pipework.

In the female changing rooms there were several uplighters behind mirrors that didn’t work and needed replacing. So I could view what needed doing the receptionist went in to the female changing rooms and called out a warning that a man was coming in.

When I went in I couldn’t help noticing that many of the fitter young women really didn’t give a damn who was coming in and carried on showering and changing regardless, happy to show off the results of all hard work they had been putting in to keeping in shape.

Anyway I got the job and sent a plumber to fix the sinks but decided to handle replacing the uplighters myself. Very distracting environment though, took a lot longer than expected to fix those lights.

Pretty sure that comes under the fringe benefits tax laws