Free: cat6 cable. ~150m in box

[QldKev]

cat6 the cable is a bit thicker too :blink:

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

When I wired up the house I used 8 gauge string and jam tins, for the longer runs I used 60 lb fishing braid and fruit tins (lager with better sound), so as I wouldnt loose quality.
So far so good although I had a problem with rats eating my string but the braid appears untouched.The Internets run on Cat6E, mainly because I liked the blue colour.
Nev

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

120lb is generally required for high speed internets. You can buy it in blue as well.

 

[OzPaleAle]

When I wired up the house I used 8 gauge string and jam tins, for the longer runs I used 60 lb fishing braid and fruit tins (lager with better sound), so as I wouldnt loose quality.
So far so good although I had a problem with rats eating my string but the braid appears untouched.The Internets run on Cat6E, mainly because I liked the blue colour.
Nev

Oh you got Malcolm Turnballs NBN installed did you?

 

[maxim0200]

Lol no string is to good for liberals, they will send carrier pidgeons to your house in the future.....

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

Oh you got Malcolm Turnballs NBN installed did you?

Labors NBN I liked, libs gayed out for wire, fuckers.
Retarded NBN for ever, thats if they even continue, fuckers.
Nev

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Dismantling the NBN will be the liberals greatest achievment

 

[verysupple]

Dismantling the NBN will be the liberals greatest achievment

Yeah, because I'll never need more than 25 Mbps and neither will anyone else...pft I use far greater bandwidth than that at work and if I had a decent connection at home I could actually get some work done from there too.

 

[slcmorro]

Oh my...

 

[maxim0200]

Dismantling the NBN will be the liberals greatest achievment

Because will never need to stream tv because the new digital network sucks for those not in a major population area, or have a decent reliable connection, or be anywhere near the world standard.

 

[punkin]

Because will never need to stream tv because the new digital network sucks for those not in a major population area, or have a decent reliable connection, or be anywhere near the world standard.

Yes, who will want to select free to air TV on demand through an internet TV in the near future? That sort of wild technology is generations off yet.

 

[pedleyr]

Because will never need to stream tv because the new digital network sucks for those not in a major population area, or have a decent reliable connection, or be anywhere near the world standard.


The vast majority of the population doesn't have that issue, should they subsidise the tv and internet of those who do?

I say that as someone who lives in a metropolitan area (which probably isn't surprising), but I also would like the ALP's NBN.

I don't know the answer to my question above but I have difficulty with subsidising 100mbps for someone in a regional area when they choose to live there, have lower cost of living, many claim it's something they choose due to lifestyle, etc. Should we also subsidise foxtel for areas that don't get full TV coverage? What about subsidising petrol where it is more expensive due to transportation costs? Nobody can articulate where the line is drawn and why (there probably isn't a line that gets the balance right because it's a hard subject).

I'll happily subsidise EVERYONE to have broadband, and happy to future proof that (if that means 100mbps now then so be it) but to me it has seemed as though there has been an attitude with the ALP's NBN of "everyone (almost) gets the exact same, regardless of the cost", which I don't think is necessary.

Let me just make clear that I think that the Coalition NBN is a steaming pile of shit though, lest there is doubt about that.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

TV......now thats a novel concept

 

[punkin]

The vast majority of the population doesn't have that issue, should they subsidise the tv and internet of those who do?

I say that as someone who lives in a metropolitan area (which probably isn't surprising), but I also would like the ALP's NBN.

I don't know the answer to my question above but I have difficulty with subsidising 100mbps for someone in a regional area when they choose to live there, have lower cost of living, many claim it's something they choose due to lifestyle, etc. Should we also subsidise foxtel for areas that don't get full TV coverage? What about subsidising petrol where it is more expensive due to transportation costs? Nobody can articulate where the line is drawn and why (there probably isn't a line that gets the balance right because it's a hard subject).

I'll happily subsidise EVERYONE to have broadband, and happy to future proof that (if that means 100mbps now then so be it) but to me it has seemed as though there has been an attitude with the ALP's NBN of "everyone (almost) gets the exact same, regardless of the cost", which I don't think is necessary.

Let me just make clear that I think that the Coalition NBN is a steaming pile of shit though, lest there is doubt about that.

What issue does the vast majority of the population not have ? That their reception sucks? Do you not think that streaming TV is coming (TV on Demand) to the whole of Australia soon? Do you think that it will be the domain of pay TV and the FTA networks will avoid it?

Of course you are right that the rest of Australia outside of capital cities chooses to live there for lifestyle reasons.

I totally understand your resentment about having to subsidise their broadband. You must also be pretty cranky about having to subsidize stamps and phone calls (let alone telstra phone connections in the outback where they may get a 10K solar sateliite connection for the $240 fee that city folk pay). After all if metropolitan people send a letter to someone two suburbs away it costs the same as one of the bushies sending it across the country.

Of course the reverse will have to apply and your local Woolies will be unable to match the regional prices for food and of course gas, power etc will be much more expensive. h34r:

 

[maxim0200]

The history of our telephone network/provider is screwed, once it was sold off it became a money making venture instead of a service.
Look at what telstra charge for what you get and then look overseas at other countries, for years telstra have had the monoply over the market and been screwing us all over for it.

Deploying a new futureproof network is expensive, thats why telstra never did it, you need goverments to make the thing happen, yes its expensive but its the future of communications.

@Punkin
I highly doubt its a 'generaton' off, some people already do it, we dont have a conventional 'tv' in our home instead we stream abc24 for news, stream youtube and download anything else we want to watch. Its great there is no ads!

Foxtel is already streaming their tv on the internet, there are some plans for foxtel IQ3 to use the net.

Over the last couple of years youtube has exploded in the number of people using it, more and more TV's are comming on the market that will play youtube without the need to sit infront of a PC. This again is put through the internet.

The BBC in brittan already has tv on demand.

pedlyer
Well put point mate.
Country life is much better! jks


Talk about going off topic lol!

 

[pedleyr]

What issue does the vast majority of the population not have ? That their reception sucks? Do you not think that streaming TV is coming (TV on Demand) to the whole of Australia soon? Do you think that it will be the domain of pay TV and the FTA networks will avoid it?

Of course you are right that the rest of Australia outside of capital cities chooses to live there for lifestyle reasons.

I totally understand your resentment about having to subsidise their broadband. You must also be pretty cranky about having to subsidize stamps and phone calls (let alone telstra phone connections in the outback where they may get a 10K solar sateliite connection for the $240 fee that city folk pay). After all if metropolitan people send a letter to someone two suburbs away it costs the same as one of the bushies sending it across the country.

Of course the reverse will have to apply and your local Woolies will be unable to match the regional prices for food and of course gas, power etc will be much more expensive. h34r:


I said some say they choose to live in regional areas.

I also said that I'm happy to collectively fund essential services - postage, phone, some broadband, electricity, etc. There is no resentment - I grew up in regional areas and my entire family and extended family live in regional areas.

What I didn't say was that streaming TV isn't coming.

Your reverse analogy isn't really correct, because Woolworths isn't government funded. It's prices (and most of the supply chains) are dictated by market forces and, what do you know, the same or cheaper in metropolitan areas! To the extent there is government intervention in the supply chain it's non-discriminatory - applies equally to all consumers at the end of the supply chain.

Regional and rural areas are an important part of the country and make important contributions to the collective well being of us all.

My point isn't "**** the bushies", it's that the NBN has seemed to have an almost evangelical attitude of the same for everyone, and I've not seen anyone explain why that's necessary given the huge cost differences. It may well be that future proofing requires 100mbps for regional areas, in which case fine.

Enjoy your HD streaming porn that I'm paying for

 

[QldKev]

WTF? How did a thread of someone generously giving something away, become so morbid?

 

[punkin]

I said some say they choose to live in regional areas.

I also said that I'm happy to collectively fund essential services - postage, phone, some broadband, electricity, etc. There is no resentment - I grew up in regional areas and my entire family and extended family live in regional areas.

What I didn't say was that streaming TV isn't coming.

Your reverse analogy isn't really correct, because Woolworths isn't government funded. It's prices (and most of the supply chains) are dictated by market forces and, what do you know, the same or cheaper in metropolitan areas! To the extent there is government intervention in the supply chain it's non-discriminatory - applies equally to all consumers at the end of the supply chain.

Regional and rural areas are an important part of the country and make important contributions to the collective well being of us all.

My point isn't "**** the bushies", it's that the NBN has seemed to have an almost evangelical attitude of the same for everyone, and I've not seen anyone explain why that's necessary given the huge cost differences. It may well be that future proofing requires 100mbps for regional areas, in which case fine.

Enjoy your HD streaming porn that I'm paying for

And you enjoy your public transport that i'm paying for, won't you?

Not to mention your art galleries, opera houses and theatres.

 

[pedleyr]

Regional areas do not subsidise metropolitan public transport nor art galleries. The lower taxation contribution alone debunks that. But in any event I think you're not getting the light hearted tone I'm trying to convey so I'll leave it there because as has been pointed out this is a long way off topic.

 

[OzPaleAle]

WTF? How did a thread of someone generously giving something away, become so morbid?

My bad, meant to be a quick joke but kinda snowballed.....