Fourstar, CM2, Brendo, Maple Mega Brewday #3

[brendo]

Not opposed to it, could be manageable particularly is we dilute down to a lower gravity to stretch out. All comes down to recipe formulation and volumes.

 

[Maple]

Not opposed to it, could be manageable particularly is we dilute down to a lower gravity to stretch out. All comes down to recipe formulation and volumes.

What if we pull it ahead a day, make it the friday?

btw, how inconsiderate of your mate to plan this inline with a brew-day - I mean, just cuz his (single) life coming to an end, he doesn't have to wreck it for the rest of us... kidding of course - whatever works out,

As for the dinner beer, perhaps willing to off my saison for this purpose. Not really fussed with this style anyway (bloody surrender monkey juice)

 

[brettprevans]

What if we pull it ahead a day, make it the friday?

btw, how inconsiderate of your mate to plan this inline with a brew-day - I mean, just cuz his (single) life coming to an end, he doesn't have to wreck it for the rest of us... kidding of course - whatever works out,

As for the dinner beer, perhaps willing to off my saison for this purpose. Not really fussed with this style anyway (bloody surrender monkey juice)

I know, what a *******. Ive already rung him about it and given him stick lol.

it could be a belgian saison, rather than frog saison. besides maybe you just havent had an aswome saision yet.

 

[Maple]

besides maybe you just havent had an aswome saision yet.

Spot on, but it is likely my tastes are just more suited to other styles. Can appreciate them, like belgians*, just don't care for 'em.

*not all belgian styles included (pre-post edit)

either way, how does the friday sit with you guys?

 

[brettprevans]

easter is nothing for me and really not much for mel. but I think Brendo is busy

 

[brendo]

sorry boys... good friday is a def no no for me. I could potentially negotiate to see my family on Easter Monday rather than the sunday - nothing has been formerly booked in as yet.

Otherwise pretty much any other time in April will work for me.

 

[brendo]

Alright boys - Saturday 7/4 at mine it is.

Now we just need our recipes and work out what we need. I already have the sinimar on hand, so we are good for that.

Put your recipe design hats on quickly gents

 

[brendo]

OK, time is slipping past fast... so to get the ball rolling, here are some sample recipes lifted from Jamil's BCS and the www, will put them into seperate posts.

Don't worry about the mash processes, etc, we will need to adjust for no sparge and partigyle. I also haven't looked at water chemistry at this stage - main thing it to dial in the recipes and work out qauntities so we can work out what we have on hand vs what needs to be bought.

I have already bought 500ml of Sinamar, so we are good there.

I will bring copies with me to Temple tonight.

 

[brendo]

Dave - I lifted this off the web, not sure if you have a better recipe you already use. We need to work out how much sinamar to use as well. partigyle will be a Schwartzbier.

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BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: BBD#3 Black Snow
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 115.51 l
Post Boil Volume: 107.94 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 100.00 l
Bottling Volume: 97.16 l
Estimated OG: 1.065 SG
Estimated Color: 10.8 EBC
Estimated IBU: 69.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 74.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
26.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.9 EBC) Grain 1 86.9 %
2.60 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC) Grain 2 8.7 %
1.30 kg Melanoiden Malt (39.4 EBC) Grain 3 4.4 %
255.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 49.0 IBUs
85.00 g Admiral [14.75 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 5 17.2 IBUs
85.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 3.3 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 29.90 kg
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 81.77 l of water at 72.3 C 65.6 C 75 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 67.47 l water at 75.6 C
Notes:
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[brendo]

High end for the range of a Marzen... we can go bigger of course. Partigyle to be a small altbier.

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BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: BBD#3 Marzen
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: Oktoberfest/Mrzen
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 115.51 l
Post Boil Volume: 107.94 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 100.00 l
Bottling Volume: 97.16 l
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 21.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 26.8 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 74.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
9.83 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 1 38.4 %
7.87 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 2 30.8 %
5.91 kg Vienna Malt (6.9 EBC) Grain 3 23.1 %
1.96 kg Caramunich Malt (110.3 EBC) Grain 4 7.7 %
230.00 g Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 26.8 IBUs
60.00 g Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 25.57 kg
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 70.46 l of water at 72.9 C 66.0 C 75 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 74.44 l water at 75.6 C
Notes:
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[brendo]

Last one... high gravity Saison. We can trick it up with specialty additions - spices, etc if we want. partigyle intended to be amber/bitter/pale

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BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: BBD#3 Saison
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: Saison
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 115.51 l
Post Boil Volume: 107.94 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 100.00 l
Bottling Volume: 97.16 l
Estimated OG: 1.071 SG
Estimated Color: 11.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 26.3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 75.1 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
24.35 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 1 80.6 %
1.96 kg Munich Malt (17.7 EBC) Grain 2 6.5 %
1.48 kg Wheat Malt, Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 3 4.9 %
0.26 kg Caramunich Malt (110.3 EBC) Grain 4 0.9 %
2.17 kg Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (2.0 EBC) Sugar 5 7.2 %
254.64 g Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 26.3 IBUs
86.96 g Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 7 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 30.22 kg
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 76.93 l of water at 70.5 C 64.0 C 75 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 70.45 l water at 75.6 C
Notes:
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[brettprevans]

Jamil's BCS

ahh I forgot you had my copy of bcs :lol:

lets hammer our recipes tonight. Dave's copy a recipe for yellow snow somewhere,. bring it along dave

 

[brendo]

ahh I forgot you had my copy of bcs :lol:

lets hammer our recipes tonight. Dave's copy a recipe for yellow snow somewhere,. bring it along dave

Not guilty... I have my own copy. Someone else must have yours.

 

[brettprevans]

Not guilty... I have my own copy. Someone else must have yours.

bugger. did I lend you any books?

nfi where my copy is then

 

[brendo]

bugger. did I lend you any books?

nfi where my copy is then

Just a sausage making one I think.

 

[Maple]

Black Snow rec:

66.7% JW Ale
29.6% JW Pils
3.7% W. Caraamber
some sinmar
(and yes at least a kg of rye for good measure)

Kg's to output OG of 1.066

60 min - Amarillo to 48.2 IBU
30 min - Amarillo to 6.1 IBU
15 min - Amarillo to 6.4 IBU
8 min - Amarillo to 4.8 IBU
2 min - Amarillo to 4.0 IBU
Dry - as you see fit

Sinimar - have zero experience with - suggest just add till t turns sufficiently black? not sure.

 

[brendo]

OK... updated based on Maple's recipe...

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: BBD#3 Black Snow
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 115.51 l
Post Boil Volume: 107.94 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 100.00 l
Bottling Volume: 97.16 l
Estimated OG: 1.067 SG
Estimated Color: 11.5 EBC
Estimated IBU: 69.8 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 74.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
20.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.9 EBC) Grain 1 65.9 %
9.25 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 2 30.5 %
1.10 kg Caraamber (59.1 EBC) Grain 3 3.6 %
255.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 48.3 IBUs
24.00 g Admiral [14.75 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 5 6.1 IBUs
70.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 6.6 IBUs
85.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 8.0 min Hop 7 4.8 IBUs
250.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 8 4.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 30.35 kg
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 82.94 l of water at 72.3 C 65.6 C 75 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 66.75 l water at 75.6 C
Notes:
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Did a quick google on AHB for Sinamar and came up with this for usage:

"So if you wanted to darken 22.5 L of beer by 10 EBC looks like the easy way to do the calculation is to say that 0.119 ml darkens 1 L by 1 EBC, 22.5*10*0.119 = 26.775 mL"

Based on a 100l batch, we will get 10 EBC for every 119ml we use. We have 500 to play with, meaning the most we can expect to get is an additional 42 EBC into the batch if we had to use it all. Something to think about.


So, I guess we can just look at how dark we want the beer and calculate accordingly. We can also look at adjusting the recipe to include some darker grains to help compensate to start with if need be too.

 

[brettprevans]

Just a sausage making one I think.

well we are only making 600L of beer, we'll have heaps of time, maybe we make a few hundred kg of snags on the day as well lol

..
So, I guess we can just look at how dark we want the beer and calculate accordingly. We can also look at adjusting the recipe to include some darker grains to help compensate to start with if need be too.

cold steep of some black patent overnight?. should provide the colour and no/negligible flavour

 

[brendo]

Alright boys, I have created a google docs spreadsheet and uploaded it with the recipe ingredients and equipment requirements - you should get an invite via email - if you don't let me know.

Take a look at your stocks and update the sheet with what you can supply.

There is a butt load of hallertau being used for bitterring - I recommend that we sub this out with something higher alpha but neutral to cut down on the mass in the kettle.

Brendo

 

[brendo]

Updated B IPA recipe. Working on using half the sinamar as a kettle addition for this, half for the schwartz. Could cold steep some carafa or black patent to increase colour if required.

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: BBD#3 Black Snow partigyle
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 100.00 l
Post Boil Volume: 98.11 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 90.00 l
Bottling Volume: 90.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.071 SG
Estimated Color: 69.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 65.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 70.9 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
18.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) US (3.9 EBC) Grain 1 62.0 %
8.30 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 2 28.6 %
1.50 kg Rye Malt (9.3 EBC) Grain 3 5.2 %
1.00 kg Caraamber (59.1 EBC) Grain 4 3.4 %
210.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 44.8 IBUs
35.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 5.7 IBUs
60.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 6.3 IBUs
70.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 8.0 min Hop 8 4.5 IBUs
200.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 9 3.6 IBUs
0.24 kg Sinamar (8100.0 EBC) Sugar 10 0.8 %


Mash Schedule: BBD Single Infusion, Light Body, No sparge
Total Grain Weight: 29.04 kg
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 76.61 l of water at 72.3 C 66.0 C 75 min
Mash Out Add 44.99 l of water at 94.3 C 75.6 C 10 min

Sparge: Remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Notes:
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Partigyle to be a Schwartzbier - 2nd runnings approx 1.045