Hi Snowgoose, how are your brews going? I completely get you disappointment at the brew not working. I have tried different brew vessels, and kit cans from supermarket but never seem to get a good result and as you say 'tastes like ****'. Sucks to spend the money and time to get a bad result. I am trying again now with a temp controlled fridge and a williamswarn bohemian pilsner. Taste tests so far are malty but does not have the yuck taste past brews have had. Fingers crossed for a good result, will know in about a week or so when I get to kegging it.