Cm2, Fourstar, Brendo, Maple Mega Barleywine Brewday

[Fourstar]

using all the information/discussion so far.

here is the recipe.

i hope it meets everyones expectations?!? i dropped the efficiency to 65% as i think its beeter we underestimate our runnings than over. dont want to have to be playing with the IBUs later on.


Big V barleywine
American Barleywine

Type: All Grain
Date: 3/03/2010
Batch Size: 90.00 L
Brewer: Braden
Boil Size: 125.99 L
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Brew Pot (40L) and Frosty Cooler (38L)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00

Ingredients
40.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (1.7 SRM) Grain 86.02 %
2.50 kg Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.38 %
1.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (86.7 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
2.50 kg Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 5.38 %

150.00 gm Centennial [8.70 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 29.8 IBU
150.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 47.9 IBU
100.00 gm Centennial [8.70 %] (20 min) Hops 10.2 IBU
150.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 14.4 IBU
50.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (10 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
50.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (10 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
100.00 gm Simcoe [12.30 %] (10 min) Hops 8.6 IBU
50.00 gm Centennial [8.70 %] (10 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
12.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
24.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 min) Misc


Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.110 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.028 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 10.90 %
Bitterness: 121.9 IBU
Est Color: 13.2 SRM Color: Color

Mash Profile
60 min Mash In Add 125.00 L of water at 73.0 C 67.0 C
10 min Mash Out Add 60.00 L of water at 87.2 C 73.0 C

Notes
CaCl2 in mash
CaSO4 in boil

 

[brettprevans]

Just asking. Ur orginal recipe had 50/50 ale and pils. Did we decide to go all ale? I don't mind. Also we need to chuck sone rye in.

Other than that looks the goods.

 

[Fourstar]

Just asking. Ur orginal recipe had 50/50 ale and pils. Did we decide to go all ale? I don't mind. Also we need to chuck sone rye in.

Other than that looks the goods.

just out of ease of recipe ive calc'd as one, we can always blend as per what we have on hand/supply on the day. the efficincey and srm effect is 9/10ths SFA anyway for the recipe formulation side of things.

So we where going for some rye in the BW where we? ok , ill adjust and post back tomorrow. cbf now, bed time.

 

[brettprevans]

Dave was pretty keen for Rye and cararye (see post 35)

i assume the cystal in the above recipe is cararye? or just normal crystal?

 

[Quintrex]

Dave was pretty keen for Rye and cararye (see post 35)

i assume the cystal in the above recipe is cararye? or just normal crystal?

Maple? Keen for Rye? Never!!!!!!!!

 

[Maple]

Dave was pretty keen for Rye and cararye (see post 35)

i assume the cystal in the above recipe is cararye? or just normal crystal?

Dude, you can't have a good brew session without rye.. btw, it it possible to perhaps use a higher AA hop for the first? that's a shiteload of hop matter that will reduce the amount of recoverable wort.

pre-edit: I can't believe I have suggested downgrading hop quantities, I should have called in sick today.

 

[brettprevans]

btw, it it possible to perhaps use a higher AA hop for the first? that's a shiteload of hop matter that will reduce the amount of recoverable wort.

nugget or magnum for first addition? both about 12%.

 

[Maple]

nugget or magnum for first addition? both about 12%.

Something more neutral / clean than nugget. Magnum is good, Warrior or Zeus (CTZ) would be ideal but not sure that's it's available in the timeframe we need it. I may have some warrior, i'll have a look tonight.

 

[brettprevans]

Something more neutral / clean than nugget. Magnum is good, Warrior or Zeus (CTZ) would be ideal but not sure that's it's available in the timeframe we need it. I may have some warrior, i'll have a look tonight.

pretty sure 4* has magnum. ive used all mine.

 

[brendo]

Something more neutral / clean than nugget. Magnum is good, Warrior or Zeus (CTZ) would be ideal but not sure that's it's available in the timeframe we need it. I may have some warrior, i'll have a look tonight.

I think I may have some Warrior as well... so we may be able to cobble enough together - will let you know what I have tonight.

+1 for some rye... maybe just add a bit of caraRye perhaps...

 

[Fourstar]

pretty sure 4* has magnum. ive used all mine.

1 pound to be precise.

Looks like we are making a barley'rye'ne instead then I'll adjust with normal rye into the grist from the base. Say 5%?

i think its best to avoid cararye for this as it doesnt add a crystal/toffee character and we have already got biscuit givng that extra toastyness you get from it. I think the only thing cararye will really be adding ontop for this is possible chocolate/dusty notes and extra rye. are we getting to complex here? Also, we are getting these flavours from the base rye anyway.

If i could get peoples current AA% they have on their hops (amarillo, columbus only, i know the others for this seasons crop.) i can adjust to reduce the hop matter and sclae back the flavour/aroma additions slightly. If we look at it in a 23L batch, we would be using around 200g hops for the batch. I think the current magnum is around 10.2AA~

 

[brendo]

I've got some Amarillo sitting at 9.5% - will help a little with the hop matter.

Warrior is at 16.4% - unsure on quantity tho... less than 90gm

 

[Fourstar]

I've got some Amarillo sitting at 9.5% - will help a little with the hop matter.

Warrior is at 16.4% - unsure on quantity tho... less than 90gm

Cool, I think i can tweak it so we end up using less, say 150g per 23L~ with the current schedule. i'll play around tonight.

 

[Maple]

Cool, I think i can tweak it so we end up using less, say 150g per 23L~ with the current schedule. i'll play around tonight.

I'll shoot you through my AA's and amounts this evening.

 

[Maple]

Warrior 16.4 % AA 90g in stock
Columbus 14.0 % AA lots in stock
Amarillo 7.5 % AA some in stock (less than columbus, more than warrior)
Biscuit, Rye cararye and assorted others I have

 

[brettprevans]

im still at work unlike some people ( <_< Dave), so i cant check my AA%. mine will be similar.

I have HEAPS of ale, pils, lots of JW crystal, some buscuit and cararye,

 

[Maple]

im still at work unlike some people ( <_< Dave), so i cant check my AA%. mine will be similar.

and to think I held off posting for am hour so it didn't look too suss.

 

[brendo]

Warrior - about 50g

Chinook - 11.5% - shiteloads
Centennial - 8.7% - shiteloads
Cascade - 7.8% - shiteloads

 

[Fourstar]

Ok,

Rye added and hops down from 800g to 650 with some tweaking.


Big V barleywine
American Barleywine

Type: All Grain
Date: 3/03/2010
Batch Size: 90.00 L
Brewer: Braden
Boil Size: 125.99 L
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Brew Pot (40L) and Frosty Cooler (38L)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00

Ingredients
38.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (1.7 SRM) Grain 81.72 %
2.50 kg Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.38 %
2.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 4.30 %
1.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (86.7 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
200.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 69.0 IBU
100.00 gm Centennial [8.70 %] (20 min) Hops 11.0 IBU
100.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
50.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (20 min) Hops 8.9 IBU
100.00 gm Simcoe [12.30 %] (10 min) Hops 9.3 IBU
50.00 gm Centennial [8.70 %] (10 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
50.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (10 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
12.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
24.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.50 kg Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 5.38 %

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.109 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.027 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 10.79 %
Bitterness: 115.1 IBU
Est Color: 13.3 SRM


Mash Profile
60 min Mash In Add 125.00 L of water at 73.0 C 67.0 C
10 min Mash Out Add 60.00 L of water at 87.2 C 73.0 C

Notes
CaCl2 in mash
CaSO4 in boil

 

[brendo]

Ok,

Rye added and hops down from 800g to 650 with some tweaking.


Big V barleywine
American Barleywine

Type: All Grain
Date: 3/03/2010
Batch Size: 90.00 L
Brewer: Braden
Boil Size: 125.99 L
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Brew Pot (40L) and Frosty Cooler (38L)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00

Ingredients
38.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (1.7 SRM) Grain 81.72 %
2.50 kg Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.38 %
2.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 4.30 %
1.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (86.7 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
200.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 69.0 IBU
100.00 gm Centennial [8.70 %] (20 min) Hops 11.0 IBU
100.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (20 min) Hops 10.4 IBU
50.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (20 min) Hops 8.9 IBU
100.00 gm Simcoe [12.30 %] (10 min) Hops 9.3 IBU
50.00 gm Centennial [8.70 %] (10 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
50.00 gm Amarillo [8.20 %] (10 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
12.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
24.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.50 kg Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 5.38 %

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.109 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.027 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 10.79 %
Bitterness: 115.1 IBU
Est Color: 13.3 SRM


Mash Profile
60 min Mash In Add 125.00 L of water at 73.0 C 67.0 C
10 min Mash Out Add 60.00 L of water at 87.2 C 73.0 C

Notes
CaCl2 in mash
CaSO4 in boil

Looking good to me...