Cm2, Fourstar, Brendo, Maple Mega Barleywine Brewday

[brendo]

does anyone have EKG? If I do, it would only be a small amount like 50g.

I've got quite a bit...

 

[Maple]

I've also got a few g's of EKG. not sure maybe 50 or 100ish

 

[Fourstar]

does anyone have EKG? If I do, it would only be a small amount like 50g.

50g here too.

 

[Fourstar]

Ok partigyle details are here. Grain in red is what we add to the 1st grist and then hop additions. The efficiency is adjusted to reflect (guesstimate what we can get out of the mash tun. its kina armwaving but should be close enough.

The reason why the crystal additions are considerably lower is to compensate for what is left in the mash tun from the 1st 'big beer'. really what they are adding is around 6-8% of crystal contribution, just the figures below dont show that due to the efficiency its marked as from the original 'take'. I'd say it should be a quite balanced english bitter.


Big V partigyle
Standard/Ordinary Bitter

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 90.00 L
Boil Size: 125.99 L
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Brew Pot (40L) and Frosty Cooler (38L)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 25.00

Ingredients
38.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (1.7 SRM) Grain 84.26 %
2.50 kg Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 5.54 %
2.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) Grain 4.43 %
1.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (86.7 SRM) Grain 3.33 %
0.40 kg Carafoam (Weyermann) (2.0 SRM) Grain 0.89 %
0.35 kg Caramalt/carared (17.3 SRM) Grain 0.78 %
0.35 kg Med Crystal/Caramunich (34.2 SRM) Grain 0.78 %
150.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 25.6 IBU
50.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops 2.8 IBU
40.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.039 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 3.73 %
Bitterness: 28.4 IBU
Est Color: 13.8 SRM


Mash Profile
60 min Mash In Add 110.00 L of water at 77.4 C 70.0 C
10 min Mash Out Add 65.00 L of water at 78.9 C 73.0 C

Notes
40g gypsum to boil
Created with BeerSmith

 

[brettprevans]

I've got carapils but not carafoam. The rest I've got

 

[brendo]

Med crystal is probably the only thing I am short on there.

 

[Fourstar]

Looks like i'll supply the JW medium crystal

CM2, carafoam/carapils = same thing, just proprietary names. Carapils is weyermanns name for dextrin malt.

either way... happy with the partigyle? ive followed the KISS approach. It saves us having to worry about conversion of enzymes in such a huge deadspace too as the residual enzymes from the 1st beer may be too denatured. Consequently, we might end up with a theoretical L:G ratio of 100:1. So we are better off just adding non enzymatic specialties to the second beer.

 

[Maple]

Looks like i'll supply the JW medium crystal

CM2, carafoam/carapils = same thing, just proprietary names. Carapils is weyermanns name for dextrin malt.

either way... happy with the partigyle? ive followed the KISS approach. It saves us having to worry about conversion of enzymes in such a huge deadspace too as the residual enzymes from the 1st beer may be too denatured. Consequently, we might end up with a theoretical L:G ratio of 100:1. So we are better off just adding non enzymatic specialties to the second beer.

uh... +1? but kinda follow that thinking, sort of. So are we all planning on attending the club meeting tomorrow night? I hadn't but can certainly swing it if you guys are going. that way I can get the grain organised for milling the day/night before - 40 odd kg will be a fairly good work out.
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[brendo]

I'll be there tomorrow night... already got 10kg of JW Trad Ale weighed out.

I can also weigh 400gm of Carapils and have that ready to go as well.

Cheers,

Brendo

 

[brettprevans]

i have other committments so cant make tomorrow.

I can crush my grain and bring it on the day or drop it off before hand. give me a good excuse to give my new hopper a test run.

I can cover medium crysal. ive got heaps. i just dont have dark crystal

 

[Fourstar]

i have other committments so cant make tomorrow.
I can crush my grain and bring it on the day or drop it off before hand. give me a good excuse to give my new hopper a test run.
I can cover medium crysal. ive got heaps. i just dont have dark crystal

all we need for the partigyle is medium crystal, carapils and and caramalt/carared. The dark was for the 1st beer which i believe you where originally covering? Is this not an option now? I can always buy some from greensy when i go and get simcoe or just adjust it to JW medium/whatever you have on hand for the 1st batch.

 

[brettprevans]

all we need for the partigyle is medium crystal, carapils and and caramalt/carared. The dark was for the 1st beer which i believe you where originally covering? Is this not an option now? I can always buy some from greensy when i go and get simcoe or just adjust it to JW medium/whatever you have on hand for the 1st batch.

i didnt realise that the crystal in the BW was dark. I thought it was medium so i said i could cover it.
I dont have dark crystal only medium and a bit of light.

 

[Fourstar]

i didnt realise that the crystal in the BW was dark. I thought it was medium so i said i could cover it.
I dont have dark crystal only medium and a bit of light.

medium it is then, i'll adjust for all. :icon_cheers:

 

[Fourstar]

all have been adjusted and SFA difference to the recipe colour. 2SRM~. CM2, that means you have to supply 1.5 kg of med crystal for the barleywine insead of dark as you noted you didnt have any. I'll be weighing my grain out shortly and keep a note to remember to go buy some table sugar for the day.

CM2 as originally discussed, i'll leve you with getting the rest of the grain for the partigyle (carapils, extra med crystal, carared/caramalt)

Looking at the previous posts i think we all can chip in some EKG for the 2nd batch.

See you tomorrow with a 3/4 full sack!

 

[Maple]

any idea on the strike temp for the water? I would imagine that it will vary given the total mass.

on a side note, the QC audit team have been through Beaver Street Bruery, and the report is pending, although it's is looking like this weekend will be spent doing a total breakdown/rebuild.
I brewed an Alt on the weekend and took the last 1600ml (half of which is trub) and decided to do a bit of a quality control test. into a sterilized flask it went, covered, and left to it's own devices at room temp. good news is the issue has been reported and work is(will be) underway to correct this, bad news is, i think it's fermenting out faster than the Alt in the fermenter. Anyway, under control, expect I will have the detailed QA audit results, recommendations, and a followup audit prior to the CM24*B&M brewzer of a day.

 

[Fourstar]

any idea on the strike temp for the water? I would imagine that it will vary given the total mass.

It shouldnt. Given the L:G ratio will be the same, it will be the same as what you usually shoot for. mid 70's~

As for the partigyle, we will have to adjust for that. i'll do a few calcs that will get us into the ball park depending on what temp the grain is at when we are ready to start the infusion. (if we can it mgiht be ebst to start the infusion immediatly after we finish the sparge on the barleywine, atleast that way our error of judgement is less. Basically sparge @ 73deg grain bed temp and then add 73deg strike water to it for the second infusion.

Grain has been weighed out, bye bye ale malt from the bulk buy! :lol:

Note to self. Dont ever suggest to your housemate that he can pay you for your house beers when he feels like his drank his moneys worth. <_<

 

[brettprevans]

CM2 as originally discussed, i'll leve you with getting the rest of the grain for the partigyle (carapils, extra med crystal, carared/caramalt)

Looking at the previous posts i think we all can chip in some EKG for the 2nd batch.

A-O-K with me. As I wont see you guys tonight, Ill crack my portion of the grain before i bring it on the day.

on a semi-related topic, Im planning on shaking the cobwebs off my brewing skills (and equipment!) over easter. I plan on banging out 2 brews if I can. failing having time for that, I will modify my kettle and get her ready for the big day. Anyone got any scrap stainless? I only need a 5cmx5cm piece.

 

[brendo]

i weighed out my base for the bw last night and 400g of carapils for the pg - will be bringing them tonight.

no scrap stainless mate... sorry...

 

[brendo]

Not long now fellas...

Dave and I were discussing it last night at melb brewers and it is going to be a long day - what time does everyone want to get started?

I also suggested to Dave that a final planning meeting at Mrs Parma's might be necessary on the Friday before if people are interested h34r:

Just confirming equipment requirements - if I need to bring anything else, let me know...

• 110l kettle
• burner, reg and gas bottle
• immersion heater (2400w)
• march pump, hoses and clamps
• containers to take wort home
• hops as agreed
• hopsock (might help with some of the wort recovery potentially)
• beer...

I think that is about it from my end... did we confirm that Fent's mash tun will be big enough - I guess we always have Dave's as back-up.

Dave - can you PM me your address??

Cheers,

Brendo

 

[brettprevans]

im out. ive decided to give up brewing

sorry fellas