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Don't know myself how much allergy shots are. Never had them before.


Top Bar Long Bee Hive #1 Finished!

Two angles of shots of Hive #1 Next to the shed for now.

I will get out the spirit level later on in the week and get the hive nice and level before the bees arrive!

I already had a little bee fly by and inspect my work. I can't explain the feeling. Never minded the bees before but this little girl was curious. She then went of and inspected my circular saw so I don't know if she put two and two together or not :)

Bee Hive #1 Angle #1
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Bee Hive #1 Angle #2
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Cheers,
Brewer Pete
 
Top Bar Long Bee Hive #2 Finished!

Two angles of shots of Hive #2 Next to the middle of garden raised bed #2 for now.

I will get out the spirit level later on in the week and get the hive nice and level before the bees arrive!

Bee Hive #2 Angle #1
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Bee Hive #2 Angle #2
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Cheers,
Brewer Pete


Chicken House and Chickens arriving next week :)
 
Great work Pete please keep us up to date
Do ants pose a problem I assume after a while there would be pickings for them under the hives?
Have a go at the chooks. Theyre great but dont get too many you can only eat so many eggs and giving them away is a nice idea but feeding more than you need gets to be a bit of a PITA. :icon_cheers:
Daz
 
I'm definitely going to ring up and ask about those shots, you've got me really interested. those hives look very nice.
 
Cheers guys,

I ran out of the thin ply making the two long hive tops so hive#3 will have to wait until I can get another from Bunnings. I saved 8 Honey Bars from being waxed as I need to cut kerfs down their length and use some of the thin ply to make divider boards (thin ply cut to inside shape of hive). That way I can mix and match the shape of the hive inside: You can split a Hive in three or two or one. You can adjust a hives ends out to keep up with bees. Or in winter you can use the space between the dividers and the ends of the hive box to stuff with straw or paper or other insulation to help the bees overwinter. I already have plans for phase#2 which is to add a gable roof from ply to the now flat rain proof tops and then use the space inside as more straw stuffing space in winter. In spring straw can be removed and scattered as mulch.

Ants should not be a problem but this hive design is easiest of designs to control ants. You simply put the bricks in containers (ice cream etc) and fill them with water or oil and anything trying to get to the legs will drown. Those few that make it are easily dealt with by the bees themselves.

Chooks are social so one only is off the cards. I was thinking of two or three and no more.

I have a local brewer with farm ties so I will be getting 180 kilo of wheat for brewing beers, chooks and secret project that is unfortunately delayed due to mill being replaced for a non-faulty one. Could get 140 kilo of barley too :)


Cheers,
Brewer Pete
 
One final shot. Ready for action!

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Smoker, bee keeping full-length-suit with zippers and velcro, past-the-elbow-length gloves.

Should not need all the gear on at once except end of season and for any hot hives attacked by wasps or other predator threats that set them off in a bad mood for a few weeks.

View was integrated so I'll probably get a separate veil I can use with a regular shirt and pants for the more common beek sessions with the bees through the year. Will have to give up my favourite black shirts when tending bees as they will think I'm some big black bear and go for me most likely. A few other colours are out for bees but I believe what I've read that they can not see the colour red. Keep the ladies back with their smelly perfumes and hair sprays, even the bees think they are offensive smelling! hehe :ph34r:


Cheers,
Brewer Pete
 
damn, this looks interesting. i won't be getting into it this year though, too much shit on.



how much does it cost to cure a bee sting allergy?

Well I had to get a referal and then go to the specialist, which all up was around $300. I don't really remember though, it was last year. Then it is just a matter of getting injected weekly until you are immune. Some docs do it in about 8 weeks, others do it over a year. Depends on the circumstances and the severity of the allergies. And the weekly injections are usually bulk billed. But once you are 'immune' I am not sure how successful it would be at preventing a reaction to numerous stings. Good for 1, fair good for 2, then it is unknown, I think...
 
Smoker, bee keeping full-length-suit with zippers and velcro, past-the-elbow-length gloves.

Should not need all the gear on at once except end of season and for any hot hives attacked by wasps or other predator threats that set them off in a bad mood for a few weeks.

My uncle keeps bees so i was a bit confused until i read the part about wasps etc.

You'll eventually get stung so much your body won't react. Bees are friggin awesome.
 
Just looking at the setup if you have issues with ants just immerse your legs in tins full of oil or something.

I hear that works a treat ^_^
 
If you did have an ant problem you could add dish washing liquid to the water to break the surface tension.
 
Chooks are social so one only is off the cards. I was thinking of two or three and no more.

Those chooks will love the spent grain too Pete. Keep in mind you will need to mash it with malted grain for the enzyme action to occur, I am contemplating a similar plan when I get some barley off my brother in laws folks.

Keep those piccies coming mate, great work thus far.
 
been doing a lot of reading on this today. i think i'll go the immunotherapy even if i give beeking a miss, as i'm too friggen lazy to make sure i've got fresh adrenaline on me (the last stuff ran out years ago i think). the maintenance shots are 2 bee stings worth once a month? so if once immune and off the maintenance shots, couldn't you maintain your immunity with regular stinging in a similar fashion?
 
the maintenance shots are 2 bee stings worth once a month? so if once immune and off the maintenance shots, couldn't you maintain your immunity with regular stinging in a similar fashion?

I'm no expert as I have not had an issue (yet) but from the post quote further above from the guy from the states who went through it and got cured and started bee keeping again but this time with Top Bar Hives was that he just uses a few regular bee stings to keep his immunity going. The body is a strange thing how it can sometimes not ever get a reaction and other times people just flip and go allergic reaction after a lifetime of no issues.

I know a lot of the non-degenerative Multiple Sclerosis people seem to seek out bee stings as part of bee sting therapy. That stimulation of the nerves through venom and making it regrow and recover must do wonders for the few that react so well and get years of steroid free relief from a few stings every few years.


Ok now one last photograph should be enough to get the basic education complete.


Capped Honey this time in the Comb
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Now how different does capped honey look to capped brood. Can you tell the difference? :)

You are on your way now to identifying most of the basic items you will see inside the hive.

Last on the list is a Queen Cell in the comb
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On the top bar hive you will see these along the outer edge of your comb. This queen cell is a "Swarm" queen cell on top bars when on the edges. These are made most often when bees run out of room to expand the hive or you are slow keeping up and adding more bars if using divider boards in your hive. Or sometimes because they just plain feel like it. Bees don't read rule books :)

On a top bar hive if the cell is built into the comb in the middle it usually means the cell is a "Succession" queen cell. This means the old queen is about to go or the workers are about to give up on her so they made a queen cell for a queen to replace her. Provided the old queen does not find the cell and sting the new queen to death inside you will have a colony that automatically re-queens itself.

The last type is when you see a normal cell extended to make a new queen cell in a quick and slightly sloppy fashion. This is an "Emergency" queen cell. Usually when your Queen dies and the workers suddenly find her gone they go out of sync and don't get much work done unless a new queen is made. If you have brand new grubs they can expand a cell and feed the grub like a queen and hopefully get a new queen to replace the missing one. If this can not take place or the new queen does not return from the mating flight you will likely slowly lose the hive as it dies off from lack of new brood. Just move the bars to another (or stronger) hive with a Queen. Using newspaper you can separate the bees from each other in the Top Bar hive so they don't attack each other. By the time they can chew through the paper they are used to each others scent and will normally get along. If not dust them in powdered sugar to mask the scent and give them something to do like licking themselves instead of killing each other.



Cheers,
Brewer Pete



PS. That ends the construction post unless people want to keep on talking about it. Or ask for updates as the season goes on. My first year I expect little if any honey and use the year to let the bees build up big colony population. Then next year the survivors are ready to attack the nectar in force and work mostly on storing excess honey.

EDIT: Also the large honey numbers of hives from the traditional beeks and monks who keep bees seems to be from excessive feeding of sugar syrup-water to the bees. Realistic pure unadulterated honey amounts are much less per hive. Abbe Warre the monk said expect 30kg/year per hive for a realistic number. Time will tell and we will just have to see how the bees react a year or two from now for good numbers.
 
Those chooks will love the spent grain too Pete. Keep in mind you will need to mash it with malted grain for the enzyme action to occur, I am contemplating a similar plan when I get some barley off my brother in laws folks.

Keep those piccies coming mate, great work thus far.

One last slightly OT post.

Barley is warming so you have to cut the quantity back in summer, Wheat can be year round, corn is warming so cut back in summer.

Also Barley can be bad for chooks as it sometimes blocks up the cloaca (spelling?) and the chooks get stuck trying to pass an egg (no idea about spent barley from beer brewing, should be ok as more ruffage than standard barley). An egg bound chook needs a massage :) or some hot steam to help the muscles relax. So I'm planning on giving them mostly wheat and a little barley and plenty of kitchen scraps plus all the bugs (tons of them) in the garden they can dig up.

There are probably as many foxes in Australia's cities as there are in all of the country areas. So keep that in mind when designing a chook house.

Ducks are easier to keep contained and won't peck plants as much. Not sure if the chooks are very plant destructive so will keep an eye on them. Especially in my Beer Hop Garden beds! :) Its recommended to keep one or the other (chooks or ducks) but not both in a small back yard.


Cheers for all the replies guys, good convo topics for sure,
Brewer Pete
 
been doing a lot of reading on this today. i think i'll go the immunotherapy even if i give beeking a miss, as i'm too friggen lazy to make sure i've got fresh adrenaline on me (the last stuff ran out years ago i think). the maintenance shots are 2 bee stings worth once a month? so if once immune and off the maintenance shots, couldn't you maintain your immunity with regular stinging in a similar fashion?

I have forgotten how long you need to have the maintenance shots for. But they are worth two stings and I think you need to get them for quite a while... Will ask the specialist next time I speak to her.
 
Yes, chooks love a vege patch especially any young plants. Whilst the best thing for your garden is the chook poop, you cant let em anywhere near it. It only takes a second and months of work can be pecked to pieces. Another point is if you use chemicals for bugs and pests it will effect the chooks if they feed there.
Daz.
 
Yes, chooks love a vege patch especially any young plants. Whilst the best thing for your garden is the chook poop, you cant let em anywhere near it. It only takes a second and months of work can be pecked to pieces. Another point is if you use chemicals for bugs and pests it will effect the chooks if they feed there.
Daz.


Mollinson suggest using a "chicken tractor" and its efectie at getting the ground dug and keeping the fowls out of the greens. I made up some chicken wire frames and could fence off parts of the vege patch and trap the chooks in. The chooks would scratch out the weeds and bugs and poo in the fertiliser, leaving you with a nice tilth ready for the spring. Beats digging

cheers

grant
 
Ok chaps,

Quick note, finished the chook house and got 3 point-of-lay chooks this past Sunday. Spent time with the very tame and very quiet girls clucking around the yard digging up juicy large fat grubs out of old tree trunk segments in the yard for them. Got 3 lovely eggs this morning in return for my efforts :)

Yes the chook house design is a Tractor design so you can move the chook run to a new place in the yard and then move the chook house against it and it sits together like so. Keeps the chicken manure spread all over the garden.

This is more fancy than mine but same basic idea and shape. Mine does not have shuttered alpine home windows on it and is half as tall. Designed for about 4 chooks maybe 5 tops. Being smaller I sewed hardware cloth all along the bottom. Yes they don't scratch as they free range every day under care of the wife so its now fox proof and cat proof and straw inside the house that can be changed out regularly.
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Did I say how much of a pack of funny buggars they are to watch :)


Bees!!

It's Floriade! so Bee Swarm Season is upon us! Can't wait for my first swarm, feel like an expectant father :p


Cheers,
Brewer Pete
 
I'm so glad the photo isn't actually your chook tractor BP. I'm a bit intimidated about building the bee hives coz of my lack of wood working skills. If I knew you were the kind of guy that put fancy windows in his chook house I would have given up. Still might give up yet. Can't get my head around the plans.

Why are you excited about swarm season? Will a swarm come to your new hives? I thought you had to go and get a swarm from a beek that had collected one from somebody who wanted one gone from their property or something.

Cheers
H
 
Will it help if I say I got an old chook tractor house+run for trade for some JAO Mead I brewed? Just needed to repair all the rotten wood, redo every join, sew on floor wire, and allsorts of tiny chores that sucked uo an entire day until sundown.

I wouldn't turn anything like that out and I could still knock out bee hives :)

Ask away on any plan, wood, tool, or general idea concept and I or the guys will help sort you out.

I did all mine with a circular saw, battery powered drill for holes and putting in screws in the holes, a big carpenter square like in the pdf from Bunnings, a childs thick learners pencil from two dollar shop for lead that wont break when marking wood, and some outdoor glue. Oh and a sheet of 21mm C/D Ply from Bunnings to cut out the rectangle and square pieces to make up the hive. I also have some large black chinese made carpenter protractor thingy I probably got from Bunnings.

If you know even someone with rudementary wood skills (just making a fancy box and a million times less complex than a traditional bee hive) then ply him with beers in exchange or chip in materials so he can keep a hive for himself. :p

Mine is not the Taj Mahal and its not perfect on every corner, cut or join. Bees don't care, they patch up all the little cracks and minor gaps.


Cheers,
Brewer Pete

EDIT: Im sure I have seen top bar hive (kits?) for sale in Australia -- just that I am not in that market since I can handle building simple box structures.


PS Swarm Season means the collector will take my mini hive out soon so I will be driving to his place any night now to pick up my first swarm of bees to transfer to the big hive then put empty brood bars back on the small hive and drive back to collector's house to be next on the end of the roster for swarm number two.
 
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