Australian Pale Tea Ale

[barabool]

Hi

Looking to experiment with some of the teas that are around at the moment but have no real idea on amounts.
I have posted a recipe below using a Australian Pale Ale as a base and then adding tea.
I plan to separate into 4 or 5 smaller batches and try different teas.

Any suggestions?



[SIZE=12.8000001907349px]Australian Pale Tea Ale[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12.8000001907349px]Type: All Grain[/SIZE]
Batch Size: 23.00 l
Boil Size: 28.00 l
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 26.00 l
Final Bottling Vol: 22.00 l
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
Date: 17 Apr 2015
Equipment: Keg - BIAB
Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72 %


Amt Name
4.50 kg Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston) (2.0 SRM)
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Dark (9.0 SRM)
0.50 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
20.00 g Galaxy [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min
1 Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)
30.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min
1 pkg SafAle English Ale S-04
[SIZE=12.8000001907349px]1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 10.0 mins) [/SIZE]
30.00 g Flame out Tea (Primary 0.0 mins)
20.00 g Dry Hop Tea (Secondary 5.0 days)




Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color
Est Original Gravity: 1.048 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.7 %
Bitterness: 33.9 IBUs
Est Color: 5.3 SRM
Measured Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.7 %
Calories: 427.1 kcal/l

 

[Yob]

I'd be using a more neutral bittering hop for starters. Certainly not galaxy at any rate

 

[barabool]

Suggestion?
I thought as I am only pulling out the bittering agents, any aroma or flavor oils would not be present.
What should I look out for?

Regards

 

[1974Alby]

just dunk a teabag in your beer glass...that way you dont have to spoil a whole 20L batch of perfectly good BEER.

 

[Yob]

Yeastieboys did a tea infused beer a little while ago, cant remember the name, earl grey was used I think from memory, was a nice beer.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Yeastieboys did a tea infused beer a little while ago, cant remember the name, earl grey was used I think from memory, was a nice beer.

Gunnamatta IPA damn good beer too !

 

[1974Alby]

Im starting to get interested....came back from Sri Lanka last year with some passionfruit infused tea from their highlands...havnet drunk much of it, but perhaps it might not be such a dumb idea to use some in a brew...
how much to add and when???..Bara, I see you are looking at 20g for 23 L ..is this based on anything or just a guess? Does it just go in as a dry-leaf addtion as per dry hopping? or do you do a mini boil/coffee plunger infusion?

 

[Samuel Adams]

There's some good info in this thread about amounts & type of tea used by Yeastie Boys which could be helpful.

 

[mosto]

HopDog also do a nice Pale Ale infused with Chai tea called Chai Fighter

 

[barabool]

Thanks for the link.
Ok so Gunamatta was dry leafed with 4g/litre for 4 days after fermentation so that means 92 grams for my 23 ltr brew.
I went down to T2 (tea shop) and they have so many different blends. Picked up this unbelievable smelling vanilla tea. May have to put that with a porter.
I told the serving girl what I wanted it for and she was really keen to taste the end product.

May have to do some tweaking.

Cheers

 

[Yob]

I've been meaning to do a mango tea infusion for ages now, I might have to bump it up on the to do list

 

[barabool]

Ok
Took your advice Yob and changed my bittering hop.

4.50 kg Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston)
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Dark (9.0 SRM)
0.50 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
20.00 g Pacific Jade [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min
1 Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)
30.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min
1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 10.0 mins)
92.00 g Dry 'hop' Tea (In Primary for 4 days)

I'm thinking after cooling for adding the tea as I think tea has a lot of tannins.
Not sure if they are good, bad or just different compared to grain tannins?

Any thoughts?

 

[roastinrich]

I told the serving girl what I wanted it for and she was really keen to taste the end product.
May have to do some tweaking.

I love a good tweak. Get both at once if you can…...

 

[NeilArge]

Ok
Took your advice Yob and changed my bittering hop.

4.50 kg Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston)
1.00 kg Wheat Malt, Dark (9.0 SRM)
0.50 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
20.00 g Pacific Jade [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min
1 Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)
30.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min
1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 10.0 mins)
92.00 g Dry 'hop' Tea (In Primary for 4 days)

I'm thinking after cooling for adding the tea as I think tea has a lot of tannins.
Not sure if they are good, bad or just different compared to grain tannins?

Any thoughts?

I made the Gunnamatta clone a while back and I dropped the tea leaves (T2 Earl Grey with blue flowers) in a hop sock and put that in the fermenter for only 3-4 days. I tried a bottle last night (one month after bottling) and it was nice - just enough of the tea character without being soapy or astringent. Nice aromatics as well.

 

[manticle]

Suggestion?
I thought as I am only pulling out the bittering agents, any aroma or flavor oils would not be present

No and no. Bittering hops can still provide plenty of varietal specifics - everything from flavour to dank resin.
It's a misconception that everything is neatly divided into bitter/flavour/aroma.
There will always be crossover.
Some hops are more neutral than others when used early. German Northern brewer is one. I'd just use something appropriate to a porter like ekg or challenger. Your cascade idea might work if you don't mind a shade of grapefruit mixed in with vanilla porter.

 

[barabool]

Drank first beers last night. Strong tea flavour and also very nice.