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Forget the super alpha.

20g NS and 10g DS at 15 min
40g NS and 20g DS at flame out

Bitter with the pacific hallertau at 45 min to make up 24 IBU total with all the late hops in there.

and halve the acid malt addition. I find 100g in a pale beer works perfect. but that depends on how high your water pH is that your trying to drop. The rest of the malt bill looks tops.
Cheers Tony,
No can do on getting the acid malt out its mixed in the bucket!

How many IBU do you figure on the flame out / off boil addition? This is where I have come unstuck in the past as I have counted them as 0 IBU's (promashh)and thrown a bucket load in yet the finished up way overbittered. :(
 
i always count all my flame out 0 min addition as zero IBU.

put them in at 2 min from flame out and it will register a bit of bitterness if your worried.

I think it has a lot to do with how quick you chill it. once the temp drops under 80 or 90 deg you will stop adding any bitterness to the beer. I usually add my flame out addition when i crank up the chiller so as soon as they hit the wort its cooling down.

These NZ hops have a fantastic smooth nitterness anyway so i wouldnt worry too much

cheers
 
I must be mad.

Im up at 5:30 AM, showered and dresses and mashing in on a Maibock. Going a decoction mash schedule and as its being brewed for a comp im going to have to keep the herbs and spices secret for a few months.

this will be my first mash paddle entry in a few years if it works out. It will also be my HAG case swap beer.

the only thing im putting in it that isnt from germany is the water :)

cheers
mad,...and flaming...
Oh I know...dresses, dresses, so many dresses to choose from. rolleyes_Les.gif

You may not need to keep the herbs secret as no-one else has the same brew rig and skill set (and experience) you have, so they can't exactly duplicate your beer. Just a thought!
 
Im going to ignore you picking on my crap typing skills...... again :)

All right.... all right...... here it is.

Maibock

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 46.00 Wort Size (L): 46.00
Total Grain (kg): 12.35
Anticipated OG: 1.068 Plato: 16.59
Anticipated EBC: 15.8
Anticipated IBU: ?
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80 %
Wort Boil Time: 75 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
56.7 7.00 kg. Weyermann Pilsner Germany 1.038 4
24.3 3.00 kg. Weyermann Vienna Germany 1.038 7
16.2 2.00 kg. Weyermann Munich I Germany 1.038 15
2.4 0.30 kg. Weyermann Caramunich I Germany 1.036 100
0.4 0.05 kg. Weyermann Caraaroma Germany 1.034 350

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

I cant give it all away :)


Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
0.18 Oz Irish Moss Fining 5 Min.(boil)


Yeast
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DCL Yeast S-189 SafLager German Lager
 
Aus - I have a little experience with these hops - add centennial and thats about all I use :super:

This is a pils that I did - the one for the Xmas case. Used D Saaz and a smidge of Amarillo (which was a last minute 20 gm flameout addition).

I would make this again - and substitute the Amarillo with Nelson - maybe go 40 gms at flameout. From my experience late NS is better than early NS. D Saaz for bittering worked really well.

I would aim for 35 IBU's - this one was overbittered just slightly - I did whirlpool for 2o minutes.

Totally agree with Tony - use the Acid Malt sparingly.

As far as nice hop flavour and aroma - dont think you will struggle there -

Just my 2c

Im sure it will be awesome.

RM

Summer Pils
German Pilsner (Pils)


Type: All Grain
Date: 30/01/2008
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Brewer: Roger Mellie
Boil Size: 33.33 L Asst Brewer: Tom
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Keg Kettle
Taste Rating(out of 50): 0.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.50 kg Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (3.9 EBC) Grain 84.91 %
0.40 kg Rice, Flaked (2.0 EBC) Grain 7.55 %
0.30 kg Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 5.66 %
0.10 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3.9 EBC) Grain 1.89 %
40 gms Bsaaz (Mash Hop) - 8 IBU's (only coz it was in the frigde unsealed)
22.50 gm D Saaz [6.70 %] (60 min) Hops 19.6 IBU
22.50 gm D Saaz [6.70 %] (15 min) Hops 5.2 IBU
22.50 gm D Saaz [6.70 %] (5 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
22.50 gm D Saaz [6.70 %] (60 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
20 gm Amarillo (I think) at flameout
1.00 tsp Table Salt (Boil 90.0 min) Misc
12.15 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs SafLager German Lager (DCL Yeast #S-189) Yeast-Lager
 
Aus - I have a little experience with these hops - add centennial and thats about all I use :super:

This is a pils that I did - the one for the Xmas case. Used D Saaz and a smidge of Amarillo (which was a last minute 20 gm flameout addition).

I would make this again - and substitute the Amarillo with Nelson - maybe go 40 gms at flameout. From my experience late NS is better than early NS. D Saaz for bittering worked really well.

I would aim for 35 IBU's - this one was overbittered just slightly - I did whirlpool for 2o minutes.

Totally agree with Tony - use the Acid Malt sparingly.

As far as nice hop flavour and aroma - dont think you will struggle there -

Just my 2c

Im sure it will be awesome.

RM
Cheers RM have a look through the Chrissy case post I finally drank your beer and really enjoyed it a few nights ago.

I mus admit I have used that level of acid in every blonde ale / 'kolsch like I have made so just went with it.

I must admit I am scared sh!tless of the late additions tho! because if you remember my lost mojo blonde ale from the chrissy case it was WWAAAYYYYYY overbittered for what should have been sub 30 IBU's and my hopping schedule for a 30L batch is below.

Lost Mojo Blonde Ale
Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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30 g. Hallertauer Pellet 4.50 14.5 60 min.
55 g. Czech Saaz Plug 3.30 6.0 20 min.
35.00 g. Hallertauer Pellet 4.50 5.8 20 min.
20 g. Czech Saaz Whole 3.30 0.0 0 min. (off boil)
25 g. Hallertauer Pellet 8.00 0.0 0 min. (off boil)
56.00 g. Czech Saaz Whole 3.30 0.0 0 min. (Hopback addition)
But I guess the off boil additions did steep for quite a while as the wort was run off through the hopback, I did throw them in before I whirlpooled then ran off through the plugs in the hopback.

The hopback will stay on the shelf for this brew!

And I will probably just bitter with the D Saaz as I still havent worked out which hop is which of the leftover Super Alpha and the NZ Hallertauer from the Great Iron Brewer Hops mixup of 2007 :eek:
 
Cheers RM have a look through the Chrissy case post I finally drank your beer and really enjoyed it a few nights ago.

I mus admit I have used that level of acid in every blonde ale / 'kolsch like I have made so just went with it.

I must admit I am scared sh!tless of the late additions tho! because if you remember my lost mojo blonde ale from the chrissy case it was WWAAAYYYYYY overbittered for what should have been sub 30 IBU's and my hopping schedule for a 30L batch is below.

Lost Mojo Blonde Ale
Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
30 g. Hallertauer Pellet 4.50 14.5 60 min.
55 g. Czech Saaz Plug 3.30 6.0 20 min.
35.00 g. Hallertauer Pellet 4.50 5.8 20 min.
20 g. Czech Saaz Whole 3.30 0.0 0 min. (off boil)
25 g. Hallertauer Pellet 8.00 0.0 0 min. (off boil)
56.00 g. Czech Saaz Whole 3.30 0.0 0 min. (Hopback addition)
But I guess the off boil additions did steep for quite a while as the wort was run off through the hopback, I did throw them in before I whirlpooled then ran off through the plugs in the hopback.

The hopback will stay on the shelf for this brew!

And I will probably just bitter with the D Saaz as I still havent worked out which hop is which of the leftover Super Alpha and the NZ Hallertauer from the Great Iron Brewer Hops mixup of 2007 :eek:

Dont know where the haze would have come from?? Never to mind.

Really interested in your final recipe Darren - I have had a couple of really good beers with the D Saaz - alll sorts of Stonefruits and Nectarine in particular. Make sure you share the recipe and the findings.

RM
 
Just finished a double batch of weizen.
50% BB ale malt
50% BB Wheat
mashed at 65 c
got a effing stuck sparge on the second despite using rice gulls?? :(
will pitch the yeast (dry munich) tomorrow morning at sparrow fart.
crap is that the time :eek:
 
I usually use 1 liter volume of rice gulls to each Kg of wheat malt in the grist....... works well.

I have a 2 liter jug i use for brewing so if i use 4kg of wheat malt, i put 2 full jugs in the grist.

how much did you use winkle?

cheers
 
Not enough mate ie, four big mitts full in both. The first one snuck through - just, I think you've got it right and its not as if their expensive.
 
Just put my ANZAC biscuit ale into the fridge to cool. Not sure wether to use US-56 or windsor in this one, mashed high (69) for the lack of crystal malts, as I wanted this one to be a bit sweet and I figure the amber and brown (and 80g of choc!) should probably dry it out a bit. Any suggestions for which of these yeasts to use?

Cheers and beers

Dave
 
Doing my first ordinary Bitter this weekend

English bitter
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 20/04/2008
Style: English Ordinary Bitter Brewer: Rook
Batch Size: 27.00 L Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 34.30 L Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.0 %

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 kg Ale ( Barrett Burston ) (8.0 EBC) Grain 88.9 %
0.25 kg Crystal, Pale ( Bairds ) (100.0 EBC) Grain 5.6 %
0.25 kg Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 5.6 %
45.00 gm Fuggles [4.40%] (60 min) Hops 20.4 IBU
30.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20%] (20 min) Hops 7.8 IBU
15.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20%] (0 min) Hops -
15.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1.50 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
5.00 gm Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
15.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Windsor Yeast (Lallemand #-) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.037 SG (1.030-1.038 SG)
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.011 SG (1.008-1.013 SG)
Estimated Color: 13.3 EBC (11.8-27.6 EBC)
Bitterness: 28.2 IBU (20.0-40.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 1.6 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 3.3 % (3.0-3.8 %)

Mash in 65-66C

Rook
 
I'm thinking of doing either an IPA or an APA tonight when I get home from work.
 
Look's a bit high Rook ?


G'day Lukes,

I am on Tank water and Wes told me the amounts to add to Burtonise the water, but i'm prepared to listen to others

Rook
 
Mixed results tonight'
Reds won
Broncos lost
brewed a

HIPA v 3.
Type: All Grain
Date: 22/03/07
Batch Size: 19.00 L
Brewer: Winkle
Boil Size: 21.75 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00


Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 kg Pale Malt, Galaxy (Barrett Burston) (1.5 SRM) Grain 86.96 %
0.25 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.35 %
0.25 kg Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 4.35 %
0.25 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (1.8 SRM) Grain 4.35 %
24.00 gm Sticklebract [13.50 %] (60 min) Hops 36.6 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 7.2 IBU
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50 %] (30 min) Hops 5.9 IBU
15.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 4.6 IBU
15.00 gm Fuggles [4.50 %] (15 min) Hops 3.8 IBU
12.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs US-56 (DCL) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.066 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.019 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.13 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.65 %
Bitterness: 58.1 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 8.3 SRM

smells great :)
 
I've decided to do an IPA weighing in at 66 IBU's. Prepared my malt and the HLT is set to get strike temp over night so I can hit it first thing Satdee morning.
 
I'm due for a change after a run of malty type beers. Time for some hops.

LCPA Inspired Fibonacci XPA

23l batch

75% IMC Ale Malt
20% JW Munich
5% English Dark Crystal

Mash at 67 for 60min to 1.050

2 US Cascade plugs at 40min
2 US Cascade plugs at 25min
10g Chinook pellets at 15min
10g Chinook pellets at 10min
10g Chinook pellets at 5min
2 US Cascade plugs at 5min
Rest of the bag of Chinook pellets at flameout and maybe dry hops too
Should be somewhere between 40 and 50 IBUs

US-05 at 18 for a couple of weeks then drink it as soon as it's gassed.
 
Doing my first ordinary Bitter this weekend

English bitter
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 20/04/2008
Style: English Ordinary Bitter Brewer: Rook
Batch Size: 27.00 L Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 34.30 L Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.0 %

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 kg Ale ( Barrett Burston ) (8.0 EBC) Grain 88.9 %
0.25 kg Crystal, Pale ( Bairds ) (100.0 EBC) Grain 5.6 %
0.25 kg Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 5.6 %
45.00 gm Fuggles [4.40%] (60 min) Hops 20.4 IBU
30.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20%] (20 min) Hops 7.8 IBU
15.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20%] (0 min) Hops -
15.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1.50 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
5.00 gm Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
15.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 90.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Windsor Yeast (Lallemand #-) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.037 SG (1.030-1.038 SG)
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.011 SG (1.008-1.013 SG)
Estimated Color: 13.3 EBC (11.8-27.6 EBC)
Bitterness: 28.2 IBU (20.0-40.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 1.6 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 3.3 % (3.0-3.8 %)

Mash in 65-66C

Rook

Rook,

i haven't found any need to burtonise an English bitter. Leave it for an IPA...otherwise the recipe looks nice.

cheers Ross
 
after more than two months without brewing, its time...for another APA.


Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 22.00 Wort Size (L): 22.00
Total Grain (kg): 3.40
Anticipated OG: 1.045 Plato: 11.25
Anticipated SRM: 5.7
Anticipated IBU: 37.3
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

% Amount Name
----------------------------------------------
44.1 1.50 kg. Pale Ale Malt (2-row)
29.4 1.00 kg. Generic DME - Light
20.6 0.70 kg. Corn Sugar
5.9 0.20 kg. Weyermann Caraamber

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
14.00 g. Nelson Sauvin Pellet 12.60 20.0 40 min.
20.00 g. Cascade Pellet 6.50 6.5 20 min.
20.00 g. Nelson Sauvin Pellet 12.60 7.5 10 min.
20.00 g. Cascade Pellet 6.50 3.2 5 min.
20.00 g. Cascade Pellet 6.50 0.0 Dry Hop
10.00 g. Nelson Sauvin Pellet 12.60 0.0 Dry Hop

american ale yeast. cant wait to start boiling the hops!! yum.
 
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