Terrorist Killings in Paris

[wide eyed and legless]

Funny thing human nature,we just glance over the recent suicide bombings in Lebanon, the countless thousands killed in Syria and Iraq, seems its alright until they make attacks on our 'Tribe', even though they are French, speak in a different language we still identify with them.
Obama will still sit on his hands, not show any leadership, the same as the recent shootings in America, that died down quickly, its up to the world superpower to say enough is enough and take up the challenge of getting in amongst the IS with the allies and putting them to the sword. But with only a year left in office I can't see Obama wanting to rock the boat, Droopy Brew is right, the leaders of IS aren't interested in religion, just the power and greed for wealth, religion is just a tool to recruit the unwary to do their evil deeds.

Oh and today's news that one of the suicide bombers passport was found close by determining him to be a recent refugee who came through Greece from Syria, I just cant imagine a suicide bomber going through his check list, gun, ammo, bomb and I had better not forget my passport.

 

[Dave70]

Do you think the people who did this in France where uni graduates? And if they were do you think that makes
them intelligent? Sad how some people see perceive intelligent.


Perhaps we should hand out some awards.

We'll see. In any case, truly stupid people dont graduate university, nor earn degrees in engineering. Religious fanaticism and intelligence arent mutually exclusive.
I'll guarantee you these killers didn't just text one another that morning and decide today would be a good day to pop up in six different locations and start murdering civilians. This was, as are all attacks of this nature, highly planned sophisticated operations. The higher ups are never the ones wearing the nailbomb vests, its the low level shit kickers who have the privileged of being 'martyrs'.


Yeah why not. They gave a Nobel Peace prize to Kissinger in 73, Yasser Arafat in 94 and Vlaidmar Putin has currently been nominated for a shiny coin. Funny old world isnt it?

 

[goomboogo]

Funny thing human nature,we just glance over the recent suicide bombings in Lebanon, the countless thousands killed in Syria and Iraq, seems its alright until they make attacks on our 'Tribe',

I made a similar comment this morning regarding the news coverage from all our local services. I don't begrudge significant coverage of any such event but the inconsistency of coverage sheds a light on the geographical prioritising of caring.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I can just imagine the mood in Europe over the next weeks as some sectors will blame all the refugees or link them to the attack

Its the refugees that are going to suffer the most now

 

[Bridges]

Its the refugees that are going to suffer the most now

When don't they?

 

[mondestrunken]

I've been thinking a lot of bad things in the last few days about this bullshit (as I'm sure we all have). But this guy writes what I really think:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/view-from-the-street/view-from-the-street-god-damn-it-we-need-to-be-kind-20151115-gkzh9i.html

 

[tavas]

Look up the CVs of the 9/11 murderers, middle class uni graduates to a man, eight had degrees in engineering.
Be far easier if they were all dumbfuck arseholes. We could just parachute cheap android tablets into war zones playing loops of Keeping up with the Kardashians and pick them off while they sat there pre occupied by Bruce Jenners sex change.

Isn't that what they're doing to us?

 

[Dave70]

Isn't that what they're doing to us?

Pretty much. Only IS remove the whole head not instead of just the brain.

 

[skb]

I may well be re-thinking my end of year jaunt to Paris given the events of the last 24h.

I am here now not sure what to say... Emotions running high I am sure it will be safe but not the same, it is how you will feel if you can be comfortable you should come as not coming is a slight victory to the idiots.

I want to be careful in what I say but I will say we need to be more honest with ourselves and political correctness is Killing us. There are good people on every culture but let's face it some beliefs are more prone to hatred and facts should let us say that. Right now not a good time for me to have perspective so I will stop

 

[pist]

I have nothing to say on this issue for the sake of keeping discussion flame-free, as my views conflict with the general consensus on here, other than **** ALL RELIGION, its nothing but bullshit. Been the cause of some of the darkest shit in the history of the human race.

 

[goomboogo]

I have nothing to say on this issue for the sake of keeping discussion flame-free, as my views conflict with the general consensus on here, other than **** ALL RELIGION, its nothing but bullshit. Been the cause of some of the darkest shit in the history of the human race.

Religion is a poison in the veins of humanity. However, ridding ourselves of the disease that is religion will not come close to bringing about a cure for all the misdeeds of man.

 

[Mattress]

This guy is making sense

http://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-project/extra/season-7/what-isil-wants

 

[Eagleburger]

Been too much of this shit. Havent read a single item about it besides this thread and a few headlines. Dont even care anymore.

Par for the course. Good luck to all.

 

[technobabble66]

I have nothing to say on this issue for the sake of keeping discussion flame-free, as my views conflict with the general consensus on here, other than **** ALL RELIGION, its nothing but bullshit. Been the cause of some of the darkest shit in the history of the human race.

As an atheist, i'm right there with you on that.

However, i think i've come to the conclusion that religion is just the mechanism/means by which this evil is unleashed.

I think it's fundamentally about people trying to impose their will upon others because they think they are "right" and that somehow gives them some insane divine authority to impose their beliefs on others.
I'd advocate the eradication of all religions and the enforced teaching of science; except i'm sure that 100-500 years down the track we'd face exactly the same conflicts, just with minor differences in methodology or interpretation of results at the centre of it rather than who is the messiah or who should be the caliph.
I mean the big JC really only advocated 2 things: Love Thyself, & Love Thy Neighbour. And (us) Christians all managed to **** that right up for the last 2000 years. I suspect science won't fair much better, until the underlying issue is fully addressed.

Maybe it would help if we were at least attempting to think rationally though.

At this point i'd probably stick with: **** All Institutionalised Religion.

and: Violence begets Violence.

Hope springs eternal...

 

[spog]

Been too much of this shit. Havent read a single item about it besides this thread and a few headlines. Dont even care anymore.

Par for the course. Good luck to all.

Similarly I have my work radio tuned to a music channel because I'm sick of the media trying to ram it down our throats.
" It " being any sliver of doom gloom or misery.
What has happened is horrific ,such things are common place through history so will sadly continue. Reality.

If you see something.... report it.
If you hear something...report it.
If you know something..report it.

 

[MichaelM]

There's a school of thought that ISIL taking credit for this event among many others is a tactic to get more and more people to turn against Muslims forcing them them to be ostracised and joining their ranks creating the divided world they want.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

There's a school of thought that ISIL taking credit for this event among many others is a tactic to get more and more people to turn against Muslims forcing them them to be ostracised and joining their ranks creating the divided world they want.

Then you have Russia.

They want to show how good they are, but, they also want the west to think that they are nice and fighting for them against " Islam "

If Putin pulls it off it will be a masterstroke

 

[Dave70]

As an atheist, i'm right there with you on that.

However, i think i've come to the conclusion that religion is just the mechanism/means by which this evil is unleashed.

I think it's fundamentally about people trying to impose their will upon others because they think they are "right" and that somehow gives them some insane divine authority to impose their beliefs on others.
I'd advocate the eradication of all religions and the enforced teaching of science; except i'm sure that 100-500 years down the track we'd face exactly the same conflicts, just with minor differences in methodology or interpretation of results at the centre of it rather than who is the messiah or who should be the caliph.
I mean the big JC really only advocated 2 things: Love Thyself, & Love Thy Neighbour. And (us) Christians all managed to **** that right up for the last 2000 years. I suspect science won't fair much better, until the underlying issue is fully addressed.

Maybe it would help if we were at least attempting to think rationally though.

At this point i'd probably stick with: **** All Institutionalised Religion.

and: Violence begets Violence.

Hope springs eternal...

We dont need 100 - 500 years to see the results, its a social experiment being played out before our eyes. Societies that have structured themselves around theocracy are abject failures. The least religious countries universally enjoy the highest standard of living. Hard to imagine if you marooned a bunch of scientists on one island and a bunch of theocrats on another that you'd return centuries later to discover the scientists bleeding out every second female child on an alter to ensure a good harvest of yams and plentiful rain.
You'd likely find the scientists had constructed an sailing vessel and long since vanished.
Not saying we should blindly trust in science, just that we should be skeptical of belief systems whos claims violate the laws of physics and biology. You know, stuff like parthenogenesis, flying horses and parting oceans with a wave of ones hand.

The problem with saying **** everyone is its an incredibly blunt tool. We're not on high alert due to Mormons pushbikers or annoying evangelicals. It took a lot of literalisim to get the ball rolling on the inquisition and stomping out heresy for example. "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live' from Exodus is pretty much as clear a mandate for biblical inspired genocide as its gets. But this was never by any stretch in cannon with Christs ideological ramblings from the mount. Assuming Christ even existed historically. Theres now way to square the circle in that regard.
Parallel this with hadith, the supposed verbatim account of the teachings, doings and sayings of Muhammad, and its islamic state by numbers. Christ was a peace nick, Muhamad was a butchering warlord.
What we're witnessing is iron age barbarism buy a group who claim divine warrant, only with the addition of modern technology.

 

[manticle]

Christ might have been a hippy but there's pages of scripture devoted to how much of an arsehole his dad was.

 

[Coalminer]

As an atheist, i'm right there with you on that.

However, i think i've come to the conclusion that religion is just the mechanism/means by which this evil is unleashed.

I think it's fundamentally about people trying to impose their will upon others because they think they are "right" and that somehow gives them some insane divine authority to impose their beliefs on others.
I'd advocate the eradication of all religions and the enforced teaching of science; except i'm sure that 100-500 years down the track we'd face exactly the same conflicts, just with minor differences in methodology or interpretation of results at the centre of it rather than who is the messiah or who should be the caliph.
I mean the big JC really only advocated 2 things: Love Thyself, & Love Thy Neighbour. And (us) Christians all managed to **** that right up for the last 2000 years. I suspect science won't fair much better, until the underlying issue is fully addressed.

Maybe it would help if we were at least attempting to think rationally though.

At this point i'd probably stick with: **** All Institutionalised Religion.

and: Violence begets Violence.

Hope springs eternal...

Love thy self - OK in private
Love thy neighbour - Can get you into piles of shit with thy wifey