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pist said:
I have nothing to say on this issue for the sake of keeping discussion flame-free, as my views conflict with the general consensus on here, other than **** ALL RELIGION, its nothing but ********. Been the cause of some of the darkest **** in the history of the human race.
Religion is a poison in the veins of humanity. However, ridding ourselves of the disease that is religion will not come close to bringing about a cure for all the misdeeds of man.
 
Been too much of this ****. Havent read a single item about it besides this thread and a few headlines. Dont even care anymore.

Par for the course. Good luck to all.
 
pist said:
I have nothing to say on this issue for the sake of keeping discussion flame-free, as my views conflict with the general consensus on here, other than **** ALL RELIGION, its nothing but ********. Been the cause of some of the darkest **** in the history of the human race.
As an atheist, i'm right there with you on that.

However, i think i've come to the conclusion that religion is just the mechanism/means by which this evil is unleashed.

I think it's fundamentally about people trying to impose their will upon others because they think they are "right" and that somehow gives them some insane divine authority to impose their beliefs on others.
I'd advocate the eradication of all religions and the enforced teaching of science; except i'm sure that 100-500 years down the track we'd face exactly the same conflicts, just with minor differences in methodology or interpretation of results at the centre of it rather than who is the messiah or who should be the caliph.
I mean the big JC really only advocated 2 things: Love Thyself, & Love Thy Neighbour. And (us) Christians all managed to **** that right up for the last 2000 years. I suspect science won't fair much better, until the underlying issue is fully addressed.

Maybe it would help if we were at least attempting to think rationally though.

At this point i'd probably stick with: **** All Institutionalised Religion.

and: Violence begets Violence.

Hope springs eternal...
 
Eagleburger said:
Been too much of this ****. Havent read a single item about it besides this thread and a few headlines. Dont even care anymore.

Par for the course. Good luck to all.
Similarly I have my work radio tuned to a music channel because I'm sick of the media trying to ram it down our throats.
" It " being any sliver of doom gloom or misery.
What has happened is horrific ,such things are common place through history so will sadly continue. Reality.

If you see something.... report it.
If you hear something...report it.
If you know something..report it.
 
There's a school of thought that ISIL taking credit for this event among many others is a tactic to get more and more people to turn against Muslims forcing them them to be ostracised and joining their ranks creating the divided world they want.
 
MichaelM said:
There's a school of thought that ISIL taking credit for this event among many others is a tactic to get more and more people to turn against Muslims forcing them them to be ostracised and joining their ranks creating the divided world they want.
Then you have Russia.

They want to show how good they are, but, they also want the west to think that they are nice and fighting for them against " Islam "

If Putin pulls it off it will be a masterstroke
 
technobabble66 said:
As an atheist, i'm right there with you on that.

However, i think i've come to the conclusion that religion is just the mechanism/means by which this evil is unleashed.

I think it's fundamentally about people trying to impose their will upon others because they think they are "right" and that somehow gives them some insane divine authority to impose their beliefs on others.
I'd advocate the eradication of all religions and the enforced teaching of science; except i'm sure that 100-500 years down the track we'd face exactly the same conflicts, just with minor differences in methodology or interpretation of results at the centre of it rather than who is the messiah or who should be the caliph.
I mean the big JC really only advocated 2 things: Love Thyself, & Love Thy Neighbour. And (us) Christians all managed to **** that right up for the last 2000 years. I suspect science won't fair much better, until the underlying issue is fully addressed.

Maybe it would help if we were at least attempting to think rationally though.

At this point i'd probably stick with: **** All Institutionalised Religion.

and: Violence begets Violence.

Hope springs eternal...
We dont need 100 - 500 years to see the results, its a social experiment being played out before our eyes. Societies that have structured themselves around theocracy are abject failures. The least religious countries universally enjoy the highest standard of living. Hard to imagine if you marooned a bunch of scientists on one island and a bunch of theocrats on another that you'd return centuries later to discover the scientists bleeding out every second female child on an alter to ensure a good harvest of yams and plentiful rain.
You'd likely find the scientists had constructed an sailing vessel and long since vanished.
Not saying we should blindly trust in science, just that we should be skeptical of belief systems whos claims violate the laws of physics and biology. You know, stuff like parthenogenesis, flying horses and parting oceans with a wave of ones hand.

The problem with saying **** everyone is its an incredibly blunt tool. We're not on high alert due to Mormons pushbikers or annoying evangelicals. It took a lot of literalisim to get the ball rolling on the inquisition and stomping out heresy for example. "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live' from Exodus is pretty much as clear a mandate for biblical inspired genocide as its gets. But this was never by any stretch in cannon with Christs ideological ramblings from the mount. Assuming Christ even existed historically. Theres now way to square the circle in that regard.
Parallel this with hadith, the supposed verbatim account of the teachings, doings and sayings of Muhammad, and its islamic state by numbers. Christ was a peace nick, Muhamad was a butchering warlord.
What we're witnessing is iron age barbarism buy a group who claim divine warrant, only with the addition of modern technology.
 
Christ might have been a hippy but there's pages of scripture devoted to how much of an arsehole his dad was.
 
technobabble66 said:
As an atheist, i'm right there with you on that.

However, i think i've come to the conclusion that religion is just the mechanism/means by which this evil is unleashed.

I think it's fundamentally about people trying to impose their will upon others because they think they are "right" and that somehow gives them some insane divine authority to impose their beliefs on others.
I'd advocate the eradication of all religions and the enforced teaching of science; except i'm sure that 100-500 years down the track we'd face exactly the same conflicts, just with minor differences in methodology or interpretation of results at the centre of it rather than who is the messiah or who should be the caliph.
I mean the big JC really only advocated 2 things: Love Thyself, & Love Thy Neighbour. And (us) Christians all managed to **** that right up for the last 2000 years. I suspect science won't fair much better, until the underlying issue is fully addressed.

Maybe it would help if we were at least attempting to think rationally though.

At this point i'd probably stick with: **** All Institutionalised Religion.

and: Violence begets Violence.

Hope springs eternal...
Love thy self - OK in private
Love thy neighbour - Can get you into piles of **** with thy wifey
 
Oh yeah. He could be more capricious than Starlin if you caught him in a bit of a mood.
Just ask the Canaanites.
Only you cant. Cos they all got slaughtered.
 
Coalminer said:
Love thy self - OK in private
Love thy neighbour - Can get you into piles of **** with thy wifey
Particularly if your neighbor is wifey.

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wide eyed and legless said:
I'm still convinced its all Genghis's fault.
I was reading about him the other day.
He ended up wiping out 10 - 25% of the world's population.
No one can hold a candle to that.
 
"..ringing the devils doorbell.. "
Whoever posted that needs to put down the keyboard, pick up a beer and go have a good Ol fashioned drunken root.
 
The problem with a simple solution is that it is often wrong, same as a simple answer, same as throwing the baby out with the bath water. As the saying goes, guns don't kill people, people kill people.
 
Not big on religion myself but most religions do promote good rather than evil.

Not all.

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wobbly said:
Batz

What's the source of your attachment

Wobbly
The internet. So it's true.
 
Dave70 said:
But likely re populated that amount again via rape.


Dan Carlin has a great multi series podcast you can download and listen to if you happen to be driving to Darwin or something.
http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-43-wrath-of-the-khans-i/
Indeed, the nations of Central Asia, for example Uzbekistan, are famed for the beauty of their women. It's long been suggested that even to this day this is due to the selection of the most attractive women for insemination by Ghengis' hordes, thus perpetuating some sort of beauty gene.

In most of these nations, take a snapshot of any group of ladies and they are generally very easy on the eye.

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