Solera For Beer - Anybody Running One?

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no but i'd be very into contributing to one. although not much fog round here so i doubt i'm near you.
 
google tells me that petersham is quite a distance from the dandenongs...

my neighbour (a carpenter) is also interested, but we don't really know where to start. :rolleyes:


no but i'd be very into contributing to one. although not much fog round here so i doubt i'm near you.
 
What size were you thinking of using, they would have to be pretty large barrels wouldn't they? It's my understanding that the smaller barrels have a larger surface area to beer and would allow too much oxygen in/oxidise the beer faster.
 
What size were you thinking of using, they would have to be pretty large barrels wouldn't they? It's my understanding that the smaller barrels have a larger surface area to beer and would allow too much oxygen in/oxidise the beer faster.

It will depend a lot on the age of the barrels, and the grain type.
Medium grain will let in much less air, but impart more oak character
fine/extra fine will let in much more air, impart less oak.

225L (barrique size) is the sweet spot in winemaking for oak pickup, 300L (hogsheads) are nice for red wines and I like the character 500L (puncheons) give with whites.

Any smaller than 225L and you'll find the beer overwhealmed by the oak character, and the micro-oxygenation.

Chris
 
Smaller barrels also very often have much thicker wood proportionally than bigger barrels.. So that helps to counteract the surface area to volume ratio thing... And if you really want to get technicL about it etc... You could do things like seal every second stave of the barrel with appoxy or poly paint. Or glue on tinfoil... Probably lots of different ways to get around it and still work in smaller barrels.

i have a 40L barrel that I have done some oak aging in - its funky now, so a lambic/flanders type beer is what will go in it next. I have considered the one barrel version of a solera... Brew one batch at 40L and funk it up, then every six months or so, tap out a 19L keg's worth of the beer and top the barrel up with a fresh batch.

You get a similar sort of creeping age effect as you do with a multi barrel solera, just not to quite the same degree. For beer, you dont really want to end up with an average age of 7 years or whatever... You just want to be able to get a batch of oak aged lambic, averaging say 1-2 years old every six months, without having to maintain a bunch of small barrels to do so.

PS - my barrel is "old" so while its still letting out a little bit of oak, its more or less neutral and in future batches, I would be adding some chips for any oak character... The barrel is really for the sake of micro oxygenation, coolness factor and for funky beers, to play homestead for the bugs and critters.
 
I have been doing a bit more research, predominantly from the sources below.

I think i am erring on the side of a 1 barrel solera, with something along the lines of the sour burbon barrel porter. if it goes downhill in years 3 or 4 and needs to be retired, i guess it might be suitable for blending with "fresh" beer.

http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2010/...rel-porter.html

Somebody out there on AHB must be running a solera, it can't only be the realm of brewing extremists... can it??


Sources:
http://www.babblebelt.com/index.html
http://cambridgebrewing.com/blog/details/la-metodo-solera/
http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2010/...eer-barrel.html
Barrels 101 & A Closer Look: Brettanomyces, The New Brewer (2011) Vol. 28, No. 4
http://ia700401.us.archive.org/14/items/So...eraAgingNew.xls
 

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