Ross's Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale

[Ross]

Ross, I thought this might have been the case. I've only ever done 5min flameout additions before, so it hasn't previously made a bif difference.

Unfortunately (?) I don't own a chiller, so have been using the cubes to 'no-chill'. Will take the main hop-bag out at the end of the boil and add maybe a 10min hop-steep addition on their own. :beer:
Tim

Tim,

Then leave the wort for 10 mins before adding your steeping hops.

cheers...

 

[petesbrew]

Hi Pete, Geeze, that's a toughie... I have no idea exactly how much is left... It's very close to blowing dry, but I'll see if I can salvage a couple of bottles before she goes.

Tim.

Nice one, I'll be looking forward to it!
Got my honey nelsonish real ale to try as well (no comparison required, of course)
Pete

 

[Jazman]

nelson goes well in a belgian golden ale or a tripple it gives it a funkyness to it

 

[drsmurto]

I've yet to do a full extract brew but I'd be interested if someone has a recipe to mirror the AG equivalent.
Any helpers here?
If so then I might just have to place another order with Ross.

At the risk of being called a blasphemer or worse, is anyone able to help out Slurpdog and myself by providing an extract recipe for this? tasted the knappstein lager on my last visit to the clare valley (cellar door), straight from the tap and its a tasty lager!

Not up to mashing just yet, steeping grains is the newest addition to my brewing techniques and i love it, beer has improved so if anyone could spend a few mins converting Ross' NSSA to an extract would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
DrSmurto

 

[warrenlw63]

Not up to mashing just yet, steeping grains is the newest addition to my brewing techniques and i love it, beer has improved so if anyone could spend a few mins converting Ross' NSSA to an extract would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
DrSmurto

DrSmurto

Just follow the hopping schedule and sub the Marris Otter for LME.

That recipe should really be easy-peasy for an extract brewer.

Warren -

 

[drsmurto]

DrSmurto

Just follow the hopping schedule and sub the Marris Otter for LME.

That recipe should really be easy-peasy for an extract brewer.

Warren -

15gm, 0 min addition = mash hops

So as a non AGer my assumption is that i would add this whilst steeping the torrified wheat? Then boil strained steeping liquid with malt and hop as per schedule?

90 g of hops in one beer - that double my PB.......

 

[Ross]

15gm, 0 min addition = mash hops

So as a non AGer my assumption is that i would add this whilst steeping the torrified wheat? Then boil strained steeping liquid with malt and hop as per schedule?

90 g of hops in one beer - that double my PB.......

Don't worry with the mash hops - add very little to the brew IMO.

cheers Ross

 

[Weizguy]

Not sure if I need to point this out, but the extract is not substituted 1:1 for the Marris Otter grain.

About 75% is about right, IIRC.

Seth

 

[therook]

Isn't Ross's Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale an ALE and the Knappstein reserve Lager just that a Lager?

rook

 

[drsmurto]

Isn't Ross's Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale an ALE and the Knappstein reserve Lager just that a Lager?

rook

Yes....... but the hop flavour is what is important here..... obvioulsy the different malts with impart their own flavours, ditto the yeasts but i think with this much hops it will/should be the dominant flavour????? :blink:

 

[Jase]

also i have the j1 in the recipe database which iuse the ns hop so look it it up its a lager and use in the 2005 xmas case so do a search to get the feed back

Sorry for the slight hijack, but I can't seem to find this recipe.

Cheers,
Jase

 

[Phrak]

Sorry for the slight hijack, but I can't seem to find this recipe.

Cheers,
Jase

Ross' original:
http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=199

My modification:
http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...st&p=187650

Enjoy!
:beer:
Tim

 

[Phrak]

Tim,
Then leave the wort for 10 mins before adding your steeping hops.

Cheers
:beer:
Tim.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Just waiting for my American Wheat to come to the boil, and I am into my third Ross's NS Ale.

All I can say is...

WOW!


Highly recomended, Great result, bugger all effort. :beer:


Festa.

 

[tangent]

I'm probably a bit biased but I'm really happy the way my NSSA turned out!

Cheers,


Stout.

I can honestly say after trying Stoutdrinkers NSSA, I might have to make a batch myself next hot spell. Very tasty.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I can honestly say after trying Stoutdrinkers NSSA, I might have to make a batch myself next hot spell. Very tasty.

Bugger waiting for a hot spell... Crank the central heating up, and Voila!

Fess.

 

[tangent]

i wish, but so many beers to brew, and so many rich malty beers to come over the cooler months

 

[facter]

okay, i got a 100g pack of nelson from twoc this morning! (that and abut eigt brews worth of other stuff haha) - ve heard so much about this hop that its time to give it whirl.

as im a partial man, im looking at something like this:

West Nelson Summer Ale

2 kg Bairds Maris Otter Pale Ale Malt
1 kg Pale Malt
0.5 kg Wheat malt
1.5kg Light LME
13 g Nelson Sauvin pellet 12 AA%, 60 mins)
14 g Nelson Sauvin pellet 12 AA% 20 mins)
20 g Nelson Sauvin pellet 12 AA% 5 mins)
15 g Nelson Sauvin pellet 12 AA% 0 mins)
25 g Nelson Sauvin pellet 12 AA% 0 mins) - steep
15 ml Wyeast Labs 1056 - American ale

23 liters
SG 1.050
ibu 36
5.3 SRM

Ive modified Ross's original recipe to a partial, but i noticed that there may be some changes to it after a few more brews. ive gone for wheat malt as opposed to torrified, i do have some of that around but its a few months old, it should be okay but not sure what it the reasoning in this to use the torrified instead of regular wheat malt, if I can ask? .. am also using pellets so modified for those.... oh,...anyways - how does this look, and can you suggest any refinements or will this be fine as is?

 

[mika]

Depends on your hop utilisation, but it can come out fairly bitter with the NS. Not sure that I'd use it as the 60min addition. Maybe move to something softer. I used NB, but I'd think about something even milder.

Also maybe get rid of the 20min addition and add it to the 0min addition.

Don't worry about the calculated IBU's, it'll come out bitter enough.

Mine was great out of the keg for the first week and then the hop aroma just died out. Not really sure why.

As for the wheat, don't know. I didn't use Torrified.

 

[Ross]

I used torrified in my original as it was inspired by an all Challenger summer ale of the same girst.
These days I tend to use straight malted wheat...
Drinking an all Columbus one at the moment (15gms at 20, 15, 10, 5, 30gm flame out) & it's bloody delicous, works fantastic in this style... :chug:

cheers Ross