Ross's Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale

[Ross]

Thanks guys, lol, you made that easy for me,
not quite into AG brewing yet, but shall keep it in mind

I am extra pleased to have a recipe for Nelson Sauvin,
as we grow them in the hop gardens I work in over the
summer, they are a really nice plant to work with, and they
have been specially developed by the local hop research
to grown in the Nelson area,
Keep buying the hops - keeps the locals in casual work over the summer!

cheers/beers
Dairymaid

have you had a go at extract brewing Dairymaid? you could easily do this recipe using extract instead.

cheers Ross

 

[brendanos]

Keep buying the hops - keeps the locals in casual work over the summer!

cheers/beers
Dairymaid

I don't think they'll be out of work any time soon, dairymaid...

I'm sure Ross could tell you how popular the NS have been lately.

 

[dairymaid]

have you had a go at extract brewing Dairymaid? you could easily do this recipe using extract instead.

cheers Ross

Of course I knew that! lol.
I will have to think hard about this one!
I at least have the Nelson Sauvin hops, grabbed a bag full when they were harvesting,
it's good being a neighbour!

cheers/beers
dairymaid

 

[stoutdrinker]

Hey Ross,

Made a batch of Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale on Thursday using the no chill method. Have just put it into the fermenter using the yeast you suggested. Well, smells fantastic & tastes just like the type of ale I really want to make& drink. Will endeavour to ferment it at 18c as suggested & will keep you posted on its progress. So far so good!

Also did a Foreign Extra Stout for next winter so it was a big brew day for me.

Cheers,

Stout

 

[Phrak]

So Rossco, how'd the adjusted NSSA go with Cascade and Ahtanum?
:beer:

Tim

 

[Phrak]

This is what I'm thinking:

Batch Size: 22.00 L	  

Boil Size: 28.73 L

Estimated OG: 1.064 SG

Estimated Color: 4.7 SRM

Estimated IBU: 37.4 IBU

Brewhouse Efficiency: 66.0 %

Boil Time: 90 Minutes



Amount		Item											  Type	% or IBU   

4.50 kg	   Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)				  Grain   76.3 %	 

0.40 kg	   Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM)						Grain   6.8 %	  

15.00 gm	  Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (30 min)				  Hops	14.6 IBU   

15.00 gm	  Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min)				  Hops	11.5 IBU   

10.00 gm	  Cascade 05 [5.90%]  (60 min)					  Hops	6.7 IBU	

20.00 gm	  Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (5 min)				   Hops	5.0 IBU	

25.00 gm	  Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)Hops	 -

Any thoughts? Gunna start soon
Tim.

 

[Stuster]

It's probably too late now, Phrak, and it'll be fine as is, but you could move the Cascade to 10 or 15 minutes from the end, to get more flavour/aroma from that which should blend nicely with the NS. Anyway, sounds good as is and I think the MO will be good to balance the hops. :chug:

 

[Ross]

Hi Phark,

I'd have made the cascade a late addition also, but looks nice all the same

My NSSA with the Cascade Ahtanum is a little disappointing. It has got quite a strong salty taste, which even though I do add a touch of salt to most brews, this one has a bit too much bite. Could be that this one was made with mains water rather than my usual rain water, we had just had the empty tank filled by trucked in mains water.

cheers Ross

 

[warrenlw63]

I cubed my "Half Nelson" APA yesterday. Has some Amarillo for bittering and at 15 mins. Stuck all the Nelson Sauvin (80g) in the hopback between 2 cubes.

Should be interesting. :chug:

Warren -

 

[Ross]

I cubed my "Half Nelson" APA yesterday. Has some Amarillo for bittering and at 15 mins. Stuck all the Nelson Sauvin (80g) in the hopback between 2 cubes.

Should be interesting. :chug:

Warren -

Sounds nice ...

 

[Slurpdog]

have you had a go at extract brewing Dairymaid? you could easily do this recipe using extract instead.

cheers Ross

I've yet to do a full extract brew but I'd be interested if someone has a recipe to mirror the AG equivalent.
Any helpers here?
If so then I might just have to place another order with Ross.

 

[Phrak]

Thanks guys. I decided that I'd like to experience the NS hop just on it's own. Here's what I tried:

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com

Recipe: Nelson Sauvin Summer Ale

Brewer: Tim

Asst Brewer: 

Style: Special/Best/Premium Bitter

TYPE: All Grain

Taste: (35.0) 



Recipe Specifications

--------------------------

Batch Size: 22.00 L	  

Boil Size: 27.13 L

Estimated OG: 1.053 SG

Estimated Color: 4.7 SRM

Estimated IBU: 40.0 IBU

Brewhouse Efficiency: 76.0 %

Boil Time: 60 Minutes



Ingredients:

------------

Amount	   Item										 Type   % or IBU

4.50 kg	  Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)			 Grain  91.8 %

0.50 kg	  Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM)				   Grain  8.2 %

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (30 min)			 Hops   17.9 IBU

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min)			 Hops   14.1 IBU

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (10 min)			 Hops   8.4 IBU

20.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (5 min)			  Hops   6.2 IBU

25.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min) (Hop-Steep) Hops	-



Mash Schedule: My Mash

Total Grain Weight: 4.90 kg

----------------------------

Name			   Description						 Step Temp	 Step Time	 

Step			   Add 0.00 L of water at 60.0 C	   60.0 C		60 min

Time will tell how it turns out :chug:

 

[The King of Spain]

I put Ross's SN ale down today. I've done this brew before but used Cascade (which has turned out a treat). Today I got the best OG to date - 1049. Loved the aroma of the hopps. Can't wait!!!

I reckon the better OG was due to using Calcium Sulphate in the mash which I forgot last week.

 

[Phrak]

So anyway, I thought I'd comment on how my NSSA turned out in the end.

From this:

Recipe Specifications

--------------------------

Batch Size: 22.00 L	  

Mash Temp: 65C

Mash Time: 60 Minutes

Boil Size: 27.13 L

Estimated OG: 1.053 SG

Estimated Color: 4.7 SRM

Estimated IBU: 40.0 IBU

Brewhouse Efficiency: 76.0 %

Boil Time: 60 Minutes





Ingredients:

------------

Amount	   Item										 Type   % or IBU

4.50 kg	  Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)			 Grain  91.8 %

0.50 kg	  Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM)				   Grain  8.2 %

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (30 min)			 Hops   17.9 IBU

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min)			 Hops   14.1 IBU

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (10 min)			 Hops   8.4 IBU

20.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (5 min)			  Hops   6.2 IBU

25.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min) (Hop-Steep) Hops	-

0.5 tablet   Whirlfoc				(15mins)

1 packet	Yeast, US-56, Dry

to keg in two weeks. And I'm very sad to say that the keg is just about to blow dry less than 3 weeks later

I love this beer! It will definitely become a regular of mine.
It's so unexpectedly refreshing and very very very drinkable - Especially after mowing the lawn/having a garage sale/coming home from work/brewing/dinner/surfing the 'net/any reason really. :lol:

I found that it especially went well with a nice spicy stir-fry - Try it with a Chilli Beef Stir Fry. The bitterness really cleanses your pallet. Even my wife ditched her glass of wine in favour of a middy of the NSSA!

My only change to my above recipe would be to drop back the bitterness slightly to maybe 35IBU. Either that, or take the main hop bag out of the wort at flameout, and then add the Hop-Steep additions.
I left all the hops in the bag during the 20min flameout addition, so this probably increased the bitterness more than I anticipated. I might try both and see which I like better :chug:

All-in-all, a very highly recommended beer. It's a shame we can't vote on the recipes! :super:

Thanks again Ross for the hops and the recipe.

Tim.

 

[Ross]

My only change to my above recipe would be to drop back the bitterness slightly to maybe 35IBU. Either that, or take the main hop bag out of the wort at flameout, and then add the Hop-Steep additions.
I left all the hops in the bag during the 20min flameout addition, so this probably increased the bitterness more than I anticipated. I might try both and see which I like better :chug:

Tim.

Tim,

I lift the hop bag out the wort & chill to 85c with my chiller, then turn it off. I then add the hop steep addition & leave in the wort for 20 mins - I then continue to chill as normal. I find this method adds very little extra bitterness - using high alpha late additions, you risk adding too much bitterness if you leave at boiling temp.

Hope this helps...

cheers

Ross

 

[warrenlw63]

I just cracked my keg of Nelson Sauvin APA. Not exactly like Ross' recipe but contains loads (80g) of NS. Put virtually all of it through my hopback.

No extra bitterness at all. The NS flavour and aroma is like nothing else I've experienced before. Confounded me at first but subsequent pints are telling me this is a very addictive hop. :super:

Half Nelson APA

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
-------------------------------

10-A American Ale, American Pale Ale

Min OG: 1.045 Max OG: 1.060
Min IBU: 30 Max IBU: 54
Min Clr: 12 Max Clr: 36 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 47.00 Wort Size (L): 47.00
Total Grain (kg): 9.80
Anticipated OG: 1.050 Plato: 12.43
Anticipated EBC: 13.1
Anticipated IBU: 43.0
Brewhouse Efficiency: 78 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.0 0.10 kg. Weyermann Carapils (Carafoam) Germany 1.037 3
2.0 0.20 kg. Weyermann Caramunich I Germany 1.036 100
96.9 9.50 kg. Baird's Golden Promise Pale A UK 1.037 7

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
30.00 g. Wye Target Pellet 10.00 21.0 60 min.
25.00 g. Amarillo Pellet 8.90 15.6 60 min.
30.00 g. Amarillo Pellet 8.90 5.0 15 min.
70.00 g. Nelson Sauvin (hopback) Whole 11.80 0.0 0 min.
10.00 g. Nelson Sauvin Whole 11.80 1.5 10 min.


Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
0.00 Oz Irish Moss Fining 15 Min.(boil)


Yeast
-----

Split batch
DCL Yeast US56 Yeast
Wyeast 1338 European Ale

Warren -

 

[petesbrew]

So anyway, I thought I'd comment on how my NSSA turned out in the end.

From this:

Recipe Specifications

--------------------------

Batch Size: 22.00 L	  

Boil Size: 27.13 L

Estimated OG: 1.053 SG

Estimated Color: 4.7 SRM

Estimated IBU: 40.0 IBU

Brewhouse Efficiency: 76.0 %

Boil Time: 60 Minutes



Ingredients:

------------

Amount	   Item										 Type   % or IBU

4.50 kg	  Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)			 Grain  91.8 %

0.50 kg	  Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM)				   Grain  8.2 %

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (30 min)			 Hops   17.9 IBU

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min)			 Hops   14.1 IBU

15.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (10 min)			 Hops   8.4 IBU

20.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (5 min)			  Hops   6.2 IBU

25.00 gm	 Nelson Sauvin [12.00%]  (20 min) (Hop-Steep) Hops	-

0.5 tablet   Whirlfoc				(15mins)

to keg in two weeks. And I'm very sad to say that the keg is just about to blow dry less than 3 weeks later

I love this beer! It will definitely become a regular of mine.
It's so unexpectedly refreshing and very very very drinkable - Especially after mowing the lawn/having a garage sale/coming home from work/brewing/dinner/surfing the 'net/any reason really. :lol:

I found that it especially went well with a nice spicy stir-fry - Try it with a Chilli Beef Stir Fry. The bitterness really cleanses your pallet. Even my wife ditched her glass of wine in favour of a middy of the NSSA!

My only change to my above recipe would be to drop back the bitterness slightly to maybe 35IBU. Either that, or take the main hop bag out of the wort at flameout, and then add the Hop-Steep additions.
I left all the hops in the bag during the 20min flameout addition, so this probably increased the bitterness more than I anticipated. I might try both and see which I like better :chug:

All-in-all, a very highly recommended beer. It's a shame we can't vote on the recipes! :super:

Thanks again Ross for the hops and the recipe.

Tim.

Will there be any left for the pizza night, Tim?

 

[stoutdrinker]

I've been drinking my NSSA for a few weeks now & it really is a refreshing summer ale. Will definitely be brewing it again.

I did have a few problems with the whole hops blocking the tap from the boiler so might use pellets next time.

Managed to buy some Knappstein Reserve Lager from Dan Murphy's at Marion (thought they had a good range of beers too!) and liked it very much.

I'm probably a bit biased but I'm really happy the way my NSSA turned out!

Cheers,


Stout.

 

[Phrak]

Tim,

I lift the hop bag out the wort & chill to 85c with my chiller, then turn it off. I then add the hop steep addition & leave in the wort for 20 mins - I then continue to chill as normal. I find this method adds very little extra bitterness - using high alpha late additions, you risk adding too much bitterness if you leave at boiling temp.

Hope this helps...

cheers

Ross

Ross, I thought this might have been the case. I've only ever done 5min flameout additions before, so it hasn't previously made a big difference.

Unfortunately (?) I don't own a chiller, so have been using the cubes to 'no-chill'. I will take the main hop-bag out at the end of the boil and add maybe a 10min hop-steep addition on their own. :beer:
Tim

 

[Phrak]

Will there be any left for the pizza night, Tim?

Hi Pete, Geeze, that's a toughie... I have no idea exactly how much is left... It's very close to blowing dry, but I'll see if I can salvage a couple of bottles before she goes.

Tim.