Recipe Help Dunkelweizen

[tangent]

i'm planning a 100% wheat but using pale, choc wheat and carawheat

 

[Sammus]

Kirem, I like the look of the Aventinus clone recipe. It may well get a run here soon, with W3638 (which is reputed to be Schneider yeast...it sure tastes like it).

Sammus, are you coming to Newie soon, or is someone from here visiting you soon? If so, I can shout you one of my wheat yeast cultures. A litre of say W3608, W3638, W3056, WLP380, WLP300 WLP320 or you can buy a package of K97 :lol: . Please let me know.
I could also recommend dark munich malt in a dunkelweizen, rather than any roasted malts to obtain the colour. Happy to hear your results, either way. I made a dunkelweizen with 300g of Carafa 1 (lhbs owner was generous with the malt) and made a weizenporter instead. Also contained 300g each of Vienna, Caramel Wheat, Carmunich I and melanoidin. Very drinkable dark ale, made interesting by the W3068 yeast.

Weizenhiemer, thanks for that link to the 100% wheat thread. Reminds me that I was gonna have a go at that recipe. It'll have to get in line behing the Pommie Pale, Belgian GSA and the Berliner weisse that are waiting in bags (grist only) in my dining room.

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Seth

That sounds like an awesome idea I'm thinking 3068 - but I'm open to suggestions. I live in newie half the time so it would work nicely - to make it easier even just drop it off at MHB and tell him its for me, ill pick it up with my next grain bill. If your interested, I have a few longys of a WLP830 lager yeast I cultured up a while back, and a 2565 Klsch I'll be propgating (this ones a bit old, I havent built it up yet but I'm pretty confident).

Sam

 

[Weizguy]

That sounds like an awesome idea I'm thinking 3068 - but I'm open to suggestions. I live in newie half the time so it would work nicely - to make it easier even just drop it off at MHB and tell him its for me, ill pick it up with my next grain bill. If your interested, I have a few longys of a WLP830 lager yeast I cultured up a while back, and a 2565 Klsch I'll be propgating (this ones a bit old, I havent built it up yet but I'm pretty confident).

Sam

Done deal. How soon?
pm sent

 

[Sammus]

Hmm didnt get a PM - I tried to send you one it says your inbox is full. Anywho - I'm in newwy at the moment but I'm leaving monday morning. In general I come back up on wed night/thurs morning and leave again on sunday night/mon morning. So whenever suits you!

 

[Tony]

I made a dunkelweizen a while back that was frikin fantastic...... it didnt last long.

The recipe is here:

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=142



Here is what i have planned for my next one. I love dinkelweizen.

Dunkelweizen - 2

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 52.00 Wort Size (L): 52.00
Total Grain (kg): 11.10
Anticipated OG: 1.050 Plato: 12.49
Anticipated EBC: 28.1
Anticipated IBU: 16.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 75 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
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54.1 6.00 kg. Weyermann Pale Wheat Germany 1.038 4
27.0 3.00 kg. Weyermann Munich I Germany 1.038 15
13.5 1.50 kg. IMC Pilsner Australia 1.037 3
3.6 0.40 kg. Weyermann Caramunich I Germany 1.036 100
1.8 0.20 kg. Weyermann Choc Wheat Germany 1.035 1100

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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70.00 g. Tettnanger Tettnang Pellet 4.20 14.6 45 min.
20.00 g. Tettnanger Tettnang Pellet 4.20 1.6 10 min.



Yeast
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WYeast 3068 Weihenstephan Weizen


cheers... hopoe this helps

 

[Sammus]

I love dinkelweizen.

Did u use any rice gulls in that recipe?

 

[Weizguy]

Hmm didnt get a PM - I tried to send you one it says your inbox is full. Anywho - I'm in newwy at the moment but I'm leaving monday morning. In general I come back up on wed night/thurs morning and leave again on sunday night/mon morning. So whenever suits you!

Cleared a few out of the Inbox now, but I had to tend to a grumpy child first...priorities, u understand.
pm really sent as well.


Lazy Seth

 

[Sammus]

Well, I finally got this brew down. With a few stuff ups as per usual .
First up I messed up my temperature infusion calcs (I blame it on beersmith...it shouldve known my data was flawed). I went to throw some water on for an acid rest and ended up at about 55C. So I added some cold water to get it down to 45. Left it there for 20, the extra cold water I added meant I needed about 15L of boiling water to get it up to the conversion rest. That took a few boils in several different kettles, and I ended up getting a little protien rest in the middle there for about 10 mins. In the end my MT was too full so I ended up drawing off about 7L of wort, bringing it to near boil, and throwing it back in. this got me to 65. I hope that last part wasn't too detrimental.

Silly me shouldve just reduced the amount of sparge water I was going to use, but I was too frustrated to think at the time. So I ended up with about 50L of wort in my 50L kettle. Lets just say there was a minor boil over, even with my best attempts to stop it (shoulda got some antifoam with this order... )

So even though I wasnt game/couldnt be bothered pulling the decoctions you all say are so necessary for weizen, maybe I got to clone some of the reactions: to get it down to size I have to boil the sh*t out of it for a long time. Its been going for over an hour full biccy on the rambo at about 200kpa ever since the hot break. I even cranked it up a bit higher but that caused it to boil over again <_<

So I'm guessing itll be a 2.5-3 hr super vigourous boil... guh and I had to be back in newwy early tonight... likes like itll be a midnight drive for me (the boil is only 1hr through)

edit: come to think of it, will the acid rest still work even though it was temporarily over heated?

edit2: oh and I have a fan blowing over the mouth of the kettle the help with evaporation...

 

[Sammus]

Hrm I dunno whats goin on... I had 80% efficiency into the boiler (48L at 1.032) and ended up with 23L at 1.050 - 61% overall efficiency... hmm doin something wrong...

 

[bconnery]

Another timely thread.

Was trying Franziskaner dunkelweizen last night, and I'd been thinking about doing one, when my wife says, actually that's quite nice, and wheats aren't normally her favourite so that's sounds like all the excuse I need

Do you reckon Munich is absolutely essential or could I get away with a combo of pils and vienna for the non wheat base malt portion?