Pronounciation Of Trub And Other Brew Words

[bum]

I just go along with it and englishise the word.

Did you just try to Anglicise Anglicise?

Wow.

 

[beers]

Strayanise

 

[manticle]

As I am one who really butchers the English Language I shouldn't talk, BUT will.

The one reason English is the universial World Language is its constsnt flexibility to changing times, attitudes and situations. Few languages have this real flexibility. The meaning, how we say them, in what context is an amazement. What makes the language a rock solid staple is also its ability to abosrb foreign words, change how they are said to fit the universial "e" sounds of english, thus making them english words.


Any person that says "this is how the word is meant to be said" will lose the argument over time, regardless how right they are. Words will be taken from sources, changed to fit a more english sound, and like all words in the english language, changed again to fit changing times.

So while I may respect the true meaning and way the word is susposed to be said, I dont fight history, I just go along with it and englishise the word.

Makes life sooooo much easier

Craftbrewer

Sure but there's a big range between ignorant twit and pretentious ****. Making an effort to pronounce a word the basic way you know it is pronounced is not hard even if you get it wrong or don't go the whole hog. There's compromise. You don't have to suddenly pretend your name begins with umlaut in order to say wert or vert.

Language does evolve and change and anal gramar nazis will always be as painful as my mother. There's a middle ground though. It's actually quite comfy.

 

[Screwtop]

And not to miss

Vest-flay-teren
You-ni-brow
Kroy-zen
Ger-za


Some examples Pronunciations in English, Flemish and French

Screwy

This is a funny thread :lol:

 

[Bribie G]

One of the best things they have shown on TV in recent times is the series "The Adventure of English" which starts off with Anglo Saxon and follows through to modern times and the rise of English as the World Language. I bought it on DVD, it's the sort of series you can watch over and over again.

 

[manticle]

Only if you're 60 and can't rub one out because the rellies are using your computer.

 

[beers]

...can't rub one out because the rellies are using your computer.

why would that stop you? :unsure:

 

[manticle]

Excuse me Martha, can you get off the computer and help your mother in the kitchen? I need to check if there have been any updates on youporn in the last 5 minutes and my mobile screen is too small. Also while you're up would you mind bringing me a towel or a face washer?

 

[Mattese]

Sorry, but whats wrong with putting in a little bit of effort and trying to find out how a word is supposed to be pronounced? It ***** me (all prounounced correctly) when somebody Australianizes (sorry, unsure of that spelling) something and justifies it by saying they are Australian. Apparently we have some of the best pronunciation of the Queen's English in the world, so to be "okker" is no excuse.

Just make an effort ya lazy pricks, its not that hard!!!

 

[jonocarroll]

I'm just going to park this here. I know of at least one brewer who will appreciate the context. For a better view, see the site.

 

[Dazza_devil]

So what were the Old English people thinking when they called it a wyrt?
Was it the way that they pronounced the Egyptian or other prehistsory word for wert or did they just say stuff that we'll call it a wyrt?

Maybe it went somethin like,
Thou wouldst drinketh if it wyrt fermented.

 

[Andyd]

As was explained to me, the w in weizen etc is closer to a v. The best way to describe the sound I've come across is this: try making a "v" sound without letting your teeth touching your lip... that would explain what someone heard as "oicebeer"...

Andy

 

[manticle]

I'm just going to park this here. I know of at least one brewer who will appreciate the context.

Those dinosaurs are almost as irritating as foamy the squirrel. The only one of those net toons I seem to enjoy is cyanide and happiness.

 

[matti]

Awww me farkeeen kroist, 5 paiges in less then 24 'ours.
Hehehehe

 

[tdh]

Wort has the same origins as the German word Wrze, the German word for wort.

tdh

 

[Effect]

As was explained to me, the w in weizen etc is closer to a v. The best way to describe the sound I've come across is this: try making a "v" sound without letting your teeth touching your lip... that would explain what someone heard as "oicebeer"...

Andy

it's not only the w = v, its also the z = tz

weizen = veitzen

 

[bowie in space]

I have the same problem with my dutch surname; BOUWMEESTER. In Holland they pronounce it Bow-(as in bow down)-meeshter. My Aussie Dad says Bow (as it bow-tie) meh-ster. In school I got Bow-myster, and Bow-meester (as in Mister Meester, you know the crazy lady from Happy Gilmore).

Confused yet? ****, my wife didn't even take my name when we got married (i can't blame her). How can you take someones name when no-one knows how to say it.

I just prefer Bowie.

Cheers

Bowie :icon_cheers:

 

[Scruffy]

Those dinosaurs are almost as irritating as foamy the squirrel. The only one of those net toons I seem to enjoy is cyanide and happiness.

Dude...

 

[Dazza_devil]

Wort has the same origins as the German word Wrze, the German word for wort.

tdh

Probably something to do with the Harvest Full Moon or Wyrt Moon when the barley was harvested.

 

[manticle]

Dude... Dog Judo!!!

I meant still cartoons. Salad fingers, spoilsbury toast boy and a million other firth related things make me very happy as do many other animations.

Thanks for the link to something new though.