Not Using Brew Enhancer

[nosco]

I used aquarium heaters on my first couple of kit brews thinking it would be pretty accurate temp control. I ditched it after my Coopers sour lager ale didnt turn out so well. Not sure if it was the 26c ferment or the midge fly floating on top.

 

[SBOB]

Bugger the halal conspiracy nonsense, I'm more worried about the hundreds of thousands of extra-terrestrials who are living inside the Earth in caves and even entire cities, for the last 30,000 years.
I know it's true because it's on YouTube.

Ask Malcolm Roberts, he'll confirm.

Does he have empirical evidence?

 

[manticle]

People have worked in the underground caverns, man.

 

[Killer Brew]

Well I did not intend to open a Pandora’s box on this topic, but as many posts have arisen, please allow me to respond. I accept the comments that it is only the malt that is halal certified and I accept all the other comments about the magnitude of the investment from the company. What I don’t except, is your final comment that I am against all religions, which I am not, nor do I accept the comment about sanitarium and Weet-Bix nor the other comments. My position is very clear and firm. The halal certification tax is nothing but a complete and utter rort which has been demonstrated so many times by many political parties in many countries all over the world. Further comment what also has been demonstrated, that a significant portion of the funds go into supporting an ethical means, in particular terrorism. We could talk about this till the cows come home and I suspect many would need to agree to disagree, but I for one will never except this tax, the purpose for which it is intended, the dictatorial means used on companies to subscribe to this tax, or anything else in this regard. To use comments such as “this makes Coopers a huge profit”, only supports the position I am upholding. As soon as Australian companies abandon this rort the sooner it will disappear off the Australian people’s radar.

MTB - I think I have answered your question in the previous response.

Bridges - thank you for your response Bridges, as you concluded that you are curious as you don’t understand, I will afford you my opinion. Firstly, I do not need to read any more about halal certification, nor do I need to enlighten myself about the benefits it can bring an Australian business. On the contrary, it is a divisive, destructive and the fee that no Australian company needs to pay. Please, someone tell me why Australian companies need to pay a tax for a political ideology which the majority do not subscribe to? I do not care about kosher food I do not care about the fuel that I use nor do I avoid posting letters because the CEO is a Muslim. With no disrespect, that is a nonsense proposition. I respectfully suggest to you that you read a little more about the halal tax, and then perhaps get back to me if you are so inclined.

I will say no more on this topic, because this is not the forum for such matters to be discussed. I only raised this in the sense that I would not be spending my money with a company that supports this particular preposterous regime. Nothing more, nothing less. Now I plan to get back to the homebrewing.

Thank you for the comments in regard to myself brewing at far too high a temperature. I did not know this and as I write, I am about to bottle my 1st 46 L of draft which by fermented at 28°. The excitement of the bottling, and further the excitement of the Sample, I suspect will far outweigh any diminution in the quality of the beer. But thank you for your advice, and I will correct the error of my ways, because I suspect after the novelty of brewing wears off, I will be expecting a top quality beer. Again, thank you all very very much.

Proven by political parties around the world? You obviously refer to right wingers who spout nonsense like this with no evidence whatsoever.
Funding terrorism? At the rate of around $1200 per company most of which is to cover administrative costs of the certification.
Saying no more on the topic? Clearly opting out as you know you can't back up your claims.

Welcome to the forum regardless. Perhaps stick to brewing questions.

As an aside I coincidentally passed the Coopers truck leaving our manufacturing site today. Delivering malt to be used in producing our very popular treats distributed around Aust and overseas (incl Indonesia) much of which is halal.

 

[SBOB]

overseas (incl Indonesia) much of which is halal.

Dont be crazy... when criticising Islam/halal you aren't meant to include those areas like Indonesia, because they don't fit the stereotype trying to be portrayed

 

[Zorco]

Where is Barls on this off topic opportunity?

Bring it back fellas... Religion is always improved with not using brew enhances.

[emoji55]

 

[SBOB]

Where is Barls on this off topic opportunity?

Bring it back fellas... Religion is always improved with not using brew enhances.

[emoji55]

All grain religion only

 

[wereprawn]

All grain religion only

Shhh....Coopers gonna call a Jihad on you for talk like that .

 

[Bridges]

I'm sorry to keep this off topic but here is a vegemite jar. The "islamic tax logo" is on it as is the kosher label. You need to pay either religious group for this accreditation. It helps you sell vegemite or malt or whatever. I don't see how they are vastly different.
You also stated "Firstly, I do not need to read any more about halal certification, nor do I need to enlighten myself about the benefits it can bring an Australian business." Cool it's great to know everything but please enlighten me by providing the links to a credible news source that shows how halal certification is funding terrorism or destroying our way of life. You then suggested "I respectfully suggest to you that you read a little more about the halal tax, and then perhaps get back to me if you are so inclined." I don't mind that you won't take your own advice but help me out here. No Australian needs to pay it you are right, no one is made to do it, like no one is forced to put a made in Australia logo or a heart foundation tick on their products. They all do it though for the same reason to help sell more stuff.
I look forward to reading the links you put here. I also look forward to hearing how much better your next beer is once you get temp. control sorted.
Cheers.

 

[sp0rk]

What I don’t except, is your final comment that I am against all religions, which I am not, nor do I accept the comment about sanitarium and Weet-Bix nor the other comments.

I support your position to have an opinion on things and you are completely entitled to that opinion.
However, I didn't say that you were against all religions, I said "And in the event you're against all religion, not just them sneaky muslims", so as to not assume that you're just against a certain section of society, instead of everyone (I personally am a Secular Humanist, I openly reject all religion/spirituality)
You can choose to accept or reject the comment about Sanitarium all you like, but it's an actual fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanitarium_Health_and_Wellbeing_Company
They're also tax exempt as they're wholly owned by a religious organisation

I too am looking forward to hearing how your brews go with temp control, best practice = best brews

 

[SBOB]

or a heart foundation tick on their products.

I've had it with funding those damn Heart extremists.....

 

[Bribie G]

I've had it with funding those damn Heart extremists.....

The Heart Foundation is a corrupt body that had to abandon the "tick" program when it became the target of a petition that, correctly, pointed out that the HF gave its tick to the products any company that bribed it: for example Nestle Milo beakfast cereal, 40% sugar. And at one stage, McDonalds.

Now they support the "star" system that is equally flawed, and still, for ***** sake insists that good saturated fats such as butter or lard are worse than this total **** fake food:

Canola products


On the subject of temperature control, if the OP doesn't want to spend a motza (kosher or otherwise) a good option is to get a dead fridge and use it as a fermentation cabinet by swapping in frozen 1.25L or 2L PET bottles.

 

[Bribie G]

And guess which company is the Heart Foundation's major research partner:

****, you'd need the quickeze after you've eaten the rest of the anti-nutrient filled poisonous manufactured crap on the page (with the sole exception of the oats of course).


The other advantage of a dead fridge is that, during the winter which can be a bit severe in Geelong (I've been to Waurn Ponds in July ) - a dead fridge is easy to keep warm as a fermenting cabinet.
For the first few days, fermentation creates its own heat, plus the cabinet can be kept warm with something like a reptile heater, for little running cost.

 

[Bridges]

Alright maybe the heart foundation wasn't the best example! What about an organic food label then.

If you get a live fridge and a sparky mate to wire you an STC-1000 temp controller you'll be right as rain. Easiest and biggest leap in beer quality I ever made.

 

[mtb]

I love how these posts are 50% off-topic for the sake of continuing the Halal discussion, and 50% fermentation fridge chatter, for the sake of maintaining "on-topic" status and avoiding barls' off-topic thread cleaning routine :lol:

oh, and on the topic of fermentation fridges, if you use a dead one make sure to give the inside a good sprayin' with disinfectant. Old fridges have a nasty habit of having contained food at some stage and you can bet there's residual bacteria in there. A warm sealed fridge will provide all sorts of bugs a great habitat for growth.

 

[Bribie G]

And what about vegans who are probably eating "organic" produce that's been fertilised using blood and bone manufactured from abbatoir waste - the good old rendering plant at the Casino meatworks was firing away nicely on the way past yesterday. Oh those dead unwanted baby calves that result in the millions as part of the dairy industry that sustains vegetarians. (vegetarians, not vegans).

The original point of the thread was, apart from the temperature, the use of Brew Enhancer. For most kits if you are looking for a clean result a kilo of glucose (in the form of dextrose) is probably better than a kilo of sugar.

White sugar is sucrose, that's a double molecule of glucose and fructose. The yeast has to split the molecule into the simpler comonents in order to ferment it, and this can result in off flavours and poor yeast performance, which is why for over a century brewers in places such as the UK and Belgium use "invert" sugar which has had the sucrose molecule pre-split.

So to avoid this stage, a kilo of glucose (dextrose) that's not too expensive, will give cleaner results.

 

[Matplat]

I get the feeling Darren might not be visiting here too often..... just a hunch

 

[Radshoes]

Hey did I tell you guys my dad is Santa?

Not this year though. this year he is on a river cruise from Budapest to Amsterdam.

 

[Bribie G]

Hey did I tell you guys my dad is Santa?

Not this year though. this year he is on a river cruise from Budapest to Amsterdam.

Reported as off topic.

 

[sp0rk]

Reported as off topic.

Reported for being a dobber