Next Brew Day

[oldbugman]

Actually I'd really keen on trying to do a rogers clone. Maybe I can come to appreciate the evil c hop again.

 

[barls]

i may end up working on this day but i can drop off a cube to someone if i can. ill let you know as we get closer

 

[mikem108]

1st pass open to comments , will have to scale the recipe up for "Phil" size, this is one corny's worth

Rogers


Size: 21.0 L
Efficiency: 75.0%
Attenuation: 75.0%




Ingredients:
3.4 kg Traditional Ale Malt
0.07 kg Crystal Malt
0.07 kg Dark Crystal
0.05 kg Pale Chocolate Malt
0.05 kg Chocolate Wheat Malt
37.0 g East Kent Goldings (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
45 g Cascade (5.5%) - added during boil, boiled 1 min
1 ea White Labs WLP001 California Ale




Notes:
Mash at 69-70C for a fuller mouthfeel for such a light beer

Results generated by BeerTools Pro 1.0.28

 

[crozdog]

1st pass open to comments , will have to scale the recipe up for "Phil" size, this is one corny's worth

Mike,

I "Philsized" (tm) B) that up in excel for a batch size of 154.5l
Traditional Ale Malt 25
Crystal Malt 0.51
Dark Crystal 0.51
Pale Chocolate Malt 0.37
Chocolate Wheat Malt 0.37
Total 26.76kg

East Kent Goldings (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min 272.0588235
Cascade (5.5%) - added during boil, boiled 1 min 330.8823529

I reckon we'd cut the 510g's back to 500g * up the 370g's to 400. What do you guys think?

Can you run it through beertools to see if you get the same IBU & BU:GU?

Philip

 

[oldbugman]

What kinda of OG we aiming for?

 

[Stuster]

Running that through Beersmith gives this.


BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: ISB Rogers
Style: American Amber Ale
--------------------------
Batch Size: 155.00 L
Boil Size: 189.95 L
Estimated OG: 1.041 SG
Estimated Color: 25.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 25.9 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
25.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.Grain 93.28 %
0.50 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 1.87 %
0.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 1.87 %
0.40 kg Chocolate Wheat Malt (788.0 EBC) Grain 1.49 %
0.40 kg Pale Chocolate (500.0 EBC) Grain 1.49 %
250.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.70 %] (60 min) Hops 24.6 IBU
330.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 1.4 IBU

 

[oldbugman]

Sounds great.

I enjoyed quite a few rogers on the weekend, as I had a fair bit of driving/on call

 

[crozdog]

Sounds great.

I enjoyed quite a few rogers on the weekend, as I had a fair bit of driving/on call

Does that mean you were well rogered on the weekend? h34r:

 

[crozdog]

Running that through Beersmith gives this.
BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: ISB Rogers
Style: American Amber Ale
--------------------------
Batch Size: 155.00 L
Boil Size: 189.95 L
Estimated OG: 1.041 SG
Estimated Color: 25.3 EBC
Estimated IBU: 25.9 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
25.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.Grain 93.28 %
0.50 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 1.87 %
0.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 1.87 %
0.40 kg Chocolate Wheat Malt (788.0 EBC) Grain 1.49 %
0.40 kg Pale Chocolate (500.0 EBC) Grain 1.49 %
250.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.70 %] (60 min) Hops 24.6 IBU
330.00 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 1.4 IBU

I reckon this would still work out to about a 4% beer. Do we need to up the volume a bit to get the OG down a tad to end up with something around 3.5%? Do we care?

 

[oldbugman]

or brew it for dilution into the fermenter?

 

[wabster]

I'd like to come along to the next brewday on the 20th, though I don't have much bring, or want to leave with a cube, I'd like to get into the process and meet a few of the group too

Assuming that's OK can someone PM me the address and kickoff time, plus anything I should bring?

Cheerz Wab.

 

[Stuster]

You're definitely welcome to come along, Wabster. Any beers you can bring along will be great.

Phil, I think since it uses a whole bag of grain, it's perfect as is. We could always dilute it later as Oldbugman says.

 

[crozdog]

You're definitely welcome to come along, Wabster. Any beers you can bring along will be great.

Phil, I think since it uses a whole bag of grain, it's perfect as is. We could always dilute it later as Oldbugman says.

Wabster PM sent with details

Guys
We need to order a bag of grain, but does anyone have any of the following ingredients available for use?
0.50 kg Crystal (Joe White)
0.50 kg Crystal, Dark (Joe White)
0.40 kg Chocolate Wheat Malt
0.40 kg Pale Chocolate
250.00 gm Goldings, East Kent
330.00 gm Cascade

If not we'll have to order them as well.

 

[mikem108]

I should have enough Pale choc and Choc wheat to bring along, will we get Gerrard to deliver the rest?

Will check stocks for other Crystals as well

 

[Stuster]

I've got plenty of dark crystal for that. I've got small amounts of Cascade and Goldings, but not enough.

One thought on the hops - I think Centennial are a fine US hop (nicer than Cascade IMO). What would you all think about changing the Cascade to Centennial or half of each? :unsure:

 

[crozdog]

I've got plenty of dark crystal for that.

Great. Thanks

I've got small amounts of Cascade and Goldings, but not enough.

One thought on the hops - I think Centennial are a fine US hop (nicer than Cascade IMO). What would you all think about changing the Cascade to Centennial or half of each? :unsure:

Works for me. What does everyone else think?

Where do we get the hops from Gerard or Ross?

 

[mikem108]

SOunds good Stu, would Gerard have the Centenial? Ross for hops. Gerard for grain?

 

[Stuster]

SOunds good Stu, would Gerard have the Centenial? Ross for hops. Gerard for grain?

I can ring Gerard if you'd like. If he's got Centennial, then that's great. If not, I could be tempted to do an order from Ross. :lol: :icon_chickcheers:

 

[oldbugman]

was talking to one of the suits at my head office today, he's a fresh wort/kit guy. Was wondering if it would be alright to invite him along, as I have been telling him about doing AG and he's keen to see it in action.

if he's allowed are there any beer left to make up a cube?

 

[Stuster]

was talking to one of the suits at my head office today, he's a fresh wort/kit guy. Was wondering if it would be alright to invite him along, as I have been telling him about doing AG and he's keen to see it in action.

if he's allowed are there any beer left to make up a cube?

Yes, and probably yes. I'll put him down for one. Of course, he'd better bring along some mighty fine beers. :icon_drunk: