Leaving Uncooked Wort

[sponge]

Hey everyone

Well tomorrow is hopefully going to be the day i pop my AG cherry :icon_chickcheers:

I'm hoping i have everything ready to go, ill get up around 8ish and start heating my strike water...

Anyways, I'm supposed to be having lunch with a friend at 12 and im worried that I may only be part way through the boil when midday comes around so was wondering if its alright to mash out and sparge etc and leave the un-boiled wort in the keggle with a lid or something over it to stop anything from getting in, then come back to it an hour or so later and boil it?

Cheers, Sponge

 

[RetsamHsam]

Why not mash in before lunch, go to lunch and then mash out and sparge when you get back...

 

[loftboy]

Hey everyone

Well tomorrow is hopefully going to be the day i pop my AG cherry :icon_chickcheers:

I'm hoping i have everything ready to go, ill get up around 8ish and start heating my strike water...

Anyways, I'm supposed to be having lunch with a friend at 12 and im worried that I may only be part way through the boil when midday comes around so was wondering if its alright to mash out and sparge etc and leave the un-boiled wort in the keggle with a lid or something over it to stop anything from getting in, then come back to it an hour or so later and boil it?

Cheers, Sponge

Sponge,

Leaving it an hour or so before starting the boil should be fine. The 60-90 min boil gets rid of any nasties.

It's everything after the boil that you need to be careful with.

 

[Whistlingjack]

Shouldn't be a problem. Good that you can cover it, though. Stops any wild yeast spores getting in.

Any bacteria that has the opportunity will be destroyed by boiling.

Hey, your first AG! This cancer is growing... :super:

Good luck!

WJ

 

[sponge]

I was thinking of that but worried that if it drops temperature more then im expecting then theres nothing I can do about it...

Just being cautious with the first one.


EDIT: My reply was to RetsamHsam about leaving it mashing, the other 2 posts did the sneaky reply before i could

 

[schooey]

There's a post here where Vlad has done this before, might be worth a PM for his experience...

edit: And if you have a gander here, it seems in days gone by that it was seen as very beneficial... Read the first bit on page 100

 

[buttersd70]

I know that Muckey and myself do it....mashtun built for 2;boil vessel built for one. We do a double batch in the mash, when half is boiling, the other half sits in a fermenter, patiently waiting for the urn to be free......so it's close to 2 hrs before the second one gets on to the boil (we boil for 90mins). Have done many brews this way, ferment side by side, can't tell em apart.

 

[muckanic]

I wouldn't be too worried about spoilage for up to a day at modest temperatures, but one thing that all-grainers have to learn real fast is to minimise waiting time. Standing around waiting for stuff to heat up (or for that matter to cool down) is what extends the brew day out. A lot of it comes down to doing things in parallel and in advance, and having appropriate-sized containers.

 

[Jerry]

Hey everyone

Well tomorrow is hopefully going to be the day i pop my AG cherry :icon_chickcheers:

I'm hoping i have everything ready to go, ill get up around 8ish and start heating my strike water...

Anyways, I'm supposed to be having lunch with a friend at 12 and im worried that I may only be part way through the boil when midday comes around so was wondering if its alright to mash out and sparge etc and leave the un-boiled wort in the keggle with a lid or something over it to stop anything from getting in, then come back to it an hour or so later and boil it?

Cheers, Sponge

Why don't you just get up earlier?

 

[Jerry]

Just to be a little more helpful.

I have left wort for a couple of hours before boiling in the past. Never noticed a difference.

Don't really like doing it but couldn't be helped at the time.

Still reckon you should just get up earlier though.

Scott

 

[PostModern]

As everyone has said, it will work. A disadvantage is the cooling of the wort as it sits in the kettle. Bringing it to the boil will take longer, so you're adding yet more time to the brew day.

I assume you're no chilling, so do something like set your HLT on a timer, so the water is hot in the morning and you don't have to spend time waiting for it to get to strike temp. Also, have your gear all set up and laid out, grain cracked, etc the night before. No reason you can't bang a batch out in <4 hours.

 

[hockadays]

I've been thinking about doing similiar myself, with the arrival of uor second child finding to to brew is not easy especially when I work away from home as well. Bothkids have a sleep from 12-3pm and are back in bed by 8pm so I'm thinking get grain cracked and brewery set up the night before. Mash in around 12.30pm with the sparge finished around 3pm with the lid on the kettle. have the 5 oclock funnies then after dinner around 8pm fire up the burner 90min boil chill for 40min and be cleaned up by 10.30pm. Chill to 10degc overnight and pitch yeast the next morning. Can anyone see any problems?

 

[Thirsty Boy]

I'll add a pessimistic note - well not really, but just a caution.

Do a mash-out.

If you don't stop the enzyme activity by raising the temperature, then it will keep right on going while your wort sits there waiting for you. You might end up with a beer that is thinner and stronger than the recipe intended. A mashout will fix the fermentability to the place it is after the mash is finished.. which is what the recipe writer intended.

It'll be fine without a mash-out, beer wont be spoiled or anything drastic like that - but I would do one and thats what I think you should do - just to be on the safe side.

Hockadays - an hour or two is probably fine... but pushing it up to five could be inviting bacteria growth and a lactic character. Never done it, it might be OK, but it might not too.

 

[Jakechan]

Why don't you just get up earlier?

Good point. I cant remember the last time I slept in till 8. Oh the joys of being young....the memories are fading fast....

 

[Occa]

I left it once before for about five hours after mash out, all was fine, tasted great. Probably should have posted a final result to
[topic="0"]http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26985&hl=occa[/topic].

Occa

 

[sponge]

Why don't you just get up earlier?

I thought getting up at 8 was early enough? Normally wouldn't think about waking up anytime before 10 but was making an exception for the brew day

....sometimes i think its too easy going to uni


Anyways, as I stated in another post, I didn't get around to brewing today because I either tore or pulled my quad at oztag last night, and didn't have any helpers around so thought I'll just wait until Sunday. Cheers for the responses though, sounds like if i end up in the same situation it should all be okay to leave it for an hour or two, even if it does mean adding extra time to the brew day

And Rob, I had a look around the house for a timer but dont have one so I might head out and get one in the next couple of days. Or do what I intended to previously, wake up at 8, stick the element on, go for a little snooze again and then get brewing after that


Sponge

 

[BOG]

10am oh the joy! The little one wakes me at 6am every day.

Expanding on the origional post. Would it be ok to go from mash tun into the boiler. Boil for say 10 minutes and then cube (no chill) it for later.
That way you could do a double mash and change the hop additions to get 2 batches of different hop profile.

Thirsty's comment of mash out holds. It would be sterile and could wait for a later date to do the full boil.

Thoughts?


BOG

 

[Tony]

I plan my brew days when i have no "lunch" dates and can brew as needed.

AG brewing needs to be planned out in advance.....and if i have people visiting... they have to understand im brewing if they drop in unanounced and i cant drop everything and sit in the loungeroom.

If i have guests coming..... i brew another day.

LEaving it wont hurt but the 6 P's apply

Propper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

cheers

 

[Cocko]

Is the flip side:

Poor Planning Produces Piss Poor Piss?

 

[Tony]

amen to that!