Its on....a new leader ALP?

[komodo]

Votes to an independant are a proxy essentially. So yes labor was essentially voted in by the people.
As for her not being voted - we've had an election since she knifed rudd. and we live in Australia not the US - we vote for a local member who represents us and is a member of a party (or is independant which leads to proxy support). We dont vote for a leader as an individual. Thats what we vote our local members for to choose that person for us (assuming the person representing your electorate is also a member of the party with the majority of seats; if not they have no say in who is the leader).

Adding to this : politics is a game of confidence - much like the ecconomy. Normally they play hand in hand but for reasons that escape my level of understanding we have a situation where there is confidence in our credit rating which gives us a high $ value but a lack of confidence in government. Whats worse is that theres not really any confidence in any one looking to sit in the hot seat.
I've said it before and I'll say it again; I think we're at least 10 years away from seeing some good leadership in this country.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

this is how the rest of the world views us:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/21/australians-julia-gillard

 

[Liam_snorkel]

(written by an Aussie, but shhh don't tell anyone)

 

[dougsbrew]

Votes to an independant are a proxy essentially. So yes labor was essentially voted in by the people.

Thats if you put politicians and 'people' in the same catergory..lol..
interesting liam, patora claims yesterday was all caused by the media.

 

[dougsbrew]

What on earth are you gibbering about?

what this bit?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I need a beer

 

[MaltyHops]

What on earth are you gibbering about?

chris de burgh - don't pay the ferryman

 

[komodo]

[twitter]TheNTNews[/twitter] seem to have it right with this tweet :
HOPEFULLY, WE HAVE GOT THE BALANCE RIGHT WITH TODAY'S FRONT PAGE...

 

[Dave70]

With all the pissing, moaning and aping of News Limited by the 'man in the street', I'd be curious to see if anybody in this small pocket of the internet can demonstrate how their own lot has been worsened by the current government.

We constantly seemed to be '******', but I can see little evidence to support it. And I run a small bushiness.

So who's getting ******?

Perhaps the '****-sayers' are being altruistic on behalf those who cant say 'we're ******' for themselves.

Self fulfilling prophecy, or are we really all ******? If so how?

 

[bum]

Perhaps the '****-sayers' are being altruistic on behalf those who cant say 'we're ******' for themselves.

Refugees and the like, you mean?

tee-hee

 

[DU99]

Vote1 AHB party..Kev don't want the job beacuse he know's the ship sinking and he don't want to be the captain

 

[WarmBeer]

I'd be curious to see if anybody in this small pocket of the internet can demonstrate how their own lot has been worsened by the current government.

Look at Mr Fancy-Pants and his ideals of "logic" and "reason". Since when is empirical evidence a pre-requisite for winning an argument on the internet?

 

[bum]

Look at Mr Fancy-Pants and his ideals of "logic" and "reason". Since when is empirical evidence a pre-requisite for winning an argument on the internet?

Now, now. At least try to be fair. He did swear quite a bit too.

 

[marksfish]

Look at Mr Fancy-Pants and his ideals of "logic" and "reason". Since when is empirical evidence a pre-requisite for winning an argument on the internet?

it would be a novel concept but i cant see it catching on anytime soon B)

 

[Dave70]

Refugees and the like, you mean?

tee-hee

Bah, they've got a ****-sayers lined up round the block - (or at least off the jetty) who's names are generally followed by LLB.

Look at Mr Fancy-Pants and his ideals of "logic" and "reason". Since when is empirical evidence a pre-requisite for winning an argument on the internet?

You're right.
I think I need to take in a few Michael Moore docudramas or something and snap out of my contentedness.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

"Mr Rudd has said consistently over the last 12 months that he would not challenge for the Labor leadership and that he would contest the next election as a local member of Parliament at the next election. That position has not changed.

Furthermore, Mr Rudd wishes to make 100 per cent clear to all members of the parliamentary Labor Party, including his own supporters, that there are no circumstances under which he will return to the Labor Party leadership in the future."

http://www.kevinruddmp.com/2013/03/statement-from-spokesperson-for-hon.html

 

[bum]

My god. The comments...

Anonymous commenting allowed, btw.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

I couldn't be bothered

 

[Airgead]

My god. The comments...

Anonymous commenting allowed, btw.

Never, ever read the comments. Anywhere. Internet comments are enough to make Gandhi start to stockpile anthrax to put the whole human race out of its collective misery.

 

[Dave70]

"Mr Rudd has said consistently over the last 12 months that he would not challenge for the Labor leadership and that he would contest the next election as a local member of Parliament at the next election. That position has not changed.

Furthermore, Mr Rudd wishes to make 100 per cent clear to all members of the parliamentary Labor Party, including his own supporters, that there are no circumstances under which he will return to the Labor Party leadership in the future."

http://www.kevinruddmp.com/2013/03/statement-from-spokesperson-for-hon.html

Still only about 75% clear on this one. Does he mean there are no circumstances or there are no circumstances.
Does everyone with a vote suddenly liking him fall outside those parameters?



Someone should troll that place good.

 

[Florian]

Still only about 75% clear on this one. Does he mean there are no circumstances or there are no circumstances.

Considering the sentence ends with "in the future" one would think it's option 2 (No circumstances, ever).

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Its going to a long wait till September

 

[sponge]

Whats happening in september?








h34r:

 

[Dave70]

Whats happening in september?








h34r:

Pfffft, Oktoberfest silly. What do you think..

http://www.oktoberfest.de/en/article/About+the+Oktoberfest/About+the+Oktoberfest/Dates+and+General+FAQs/751/

 

[sponge]

Pfffft, Oktoberfest silly. What do you think..

http://www.oktoberfest.de/en/article/About+the+Oktoberfest/About+the+Oktoberfest/Dates+and+General+FAQs/751/

Gosh I really do feel silly right now.

At ease, cap'n.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Everyone knows Oktoberfest is in September. You need to get out more

 

[dougsbrew]

do you think someone running a country should have experienced family life, before carrying on about what 'australian families' need?

May 2, 2007


Opposition Industrial Relations spokeswoman Julia Gillard has hit back at Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan, branding him a "man of the past'', after he accused her of being unqualified to run the country because she does not have children.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

He is the crazy uncle of the liberal party

 

[jlm]

do you think someone running a country should have experienced family life, before carrying on about what 'australian families' need?

May 2, 2007

Opposition Industrial Relations spokeswoman Julia Gillard has hit back at Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan, branding him a "man of the past'', after he accused her of being unqualified to run the country because she does not have children.

So, this being the internet and all,1st I'll admit that I have no children, also that I'm a non voter in general and see both L parties spouting the same ****. Just to answer any further rebuttal straight up. I am a member of at least one family though, and pretty sure Julia is too.
Now, my family went through some rough times when I was a kid, not a lot of money, but my mum managed the budget just fine. Did the best she could with what was available. This combined with the fact she spat out myself, my brother and my sister does not make her a prime candidate for treasurer. There should be laws in place for the sake of all Australians that forbid my father from holding any type of public representation, despite the fact he sired three humans.
If the answer the the question I quoted above is no.......Then I guess we should ask whether Julia, Tony, lets through Christine Milne in as well for fun, has any right carrying on about what the homeless, mentally ill, indigenous, refugees, disabled ect. need as they've never lived though what that particular group has.
Luckily there's very little advocation for the above groups as there's no votes there so my point is kind of redundant.

 

[bum]

so my point is kind of redundant.

Nah. It does suggest that this whole discussion might be, though.