In support of homeopathy

[Dave70]

Friend of mine is undergoing cancer treatment and has been a fan of Chinese herbal medicine for years but has gone strictly conventional (operation etc). The specialist says that they are actually doing a big test of Chinese herbs at the John Hunter Hospital and find that some of them have "encouraging" properties. After all nearly all our most powerful drugs came originally from plants ... aspirin from willow bark, penicillin from mould, opioids from poppies, birth control pills from some plant out of the Amazon, beer from barley. I'd guess a lot of the Chinese concoctions could be helpful, but a lot of them superstition.

Tiger penis > Sildenafil hands down.

 

[stewy]

All this DBRCT stuff is well and good, but what if it works for some and not others ? This happens a lot in real medicine. Thats why doctors change medications to see which one works.

Every medication & even procedure has a failure rate. Perfection doesn't exist.
DBRCT will show you if a medicine will work better than a placebo in large groups of people. So the medicine might reduce the symptoms in 89% of people in the experimental group but in the placebo group the symptoms are reduced in only 25% of the people, we can say that the medicine is obviously effective.

 

[pcmfisher]

Have you seen how much those ******* Pharmacists make?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Goodness me, this tread with all its links is a bit wordy and has taken so long to read I've developed a crick in my neck.
I'm off to see the chiropractor.

No need for dodgy bone crackers, I have about 1000ltrs of homeopathic medicine at home stored in a rainwater tank. Seeing as your a top bloke and all that I well send in an Orchy bottle ( which can also be used to administer herbal medicines, or so i have been told ) full. I will make sure i drive past the local hospital and give it a good shake so that it can remember what to do when you get it

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Have you seen how much those ******* Pharmacists make?

Not as much as those other blokes who sell " pharmaceuticals "

 

[manticle]

What would homeopaths do if the push to ban dihydrogen monoxide came to fruition?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Dangerous stuff that dihydrogen monoxide. I am supprised that Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration has not already looked into homeopaths using this dangerous susbtance

 

[manticle]

Homeopaths live on the edge.
If they do ban it, I guess they could always try another technology like trephination? Many patients report feeling much better afterwards.

 

[MHB]

How does the old ditty go....

Blows a hole in the brain
Lets in the rain
Acts as a drain...

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Pete Evans new Paleo cookbook for kids has been shelved by the publishers.



Gutted.......



http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/03/16/pan-macmillan-no-longer-publishing-pete-evans-paleo-cookbook-kids

 

[Liam_snorkel]

can't stand that smug *******.

 

[technobabble66]

can't stand that smug orange *******.

FIFY

 

[Dave70]

No need for dodgy bone crackers, I have about 1000ltrs of homeopathic medicine at home stored in a rainwater tank. Seeing as your a top bloke and all that I well send in an Orchy bottle ( which can also be used to administer herbal medicines, or so i have been told ) full. I will make sure i drive past the local hospital and give it a good shake so that it can remember what to do when you get it

Cheers.

If its not to much bother, can you sit the Orchy bottle in a shoe box next to a packet of Nurofen overnight before you post it in order to absorb the aura.

PS: And throw in about a 4" piece of garden hose if you have any.

PPS: "Targeted pain relief" and similar claims are a scam.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/accc-seeing-red-reckitt-benckiser-taken-to-court-over-multicoloured-nurofen-packs/story-fnagkbpv-1227248891160

 

[Dave70]

Pete Evans new Paleo cookbook for kids has been shelved by the publishers.



Gutted.......



http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/03/16/pan-macmillan-no-longer-publishing-pete-evans-paleo-cookbook-kids

Bubba Yum Yum – The Paleo Way - for new mums.
Should have been banned on the gag inducing cringeworthtness of the title alone, but the 'DIY infant formula' really takes the ******* biscuit. About what I'd expect when a celebrity chef, blogger and naturopath join forces to sniff out another branch they can harvest a few paleo dollars from.

Call me cynical, I can take it.

 

[goomboogo]

I fed all the kids bone broth when they were babies. It seemed logical; what else would babies have eaten in the paleolithic period?

 

[mje1980]

Mine loved brontosaurus burgers and fried pterodactyl wings. Farted like troopers though. My mate barney and I ate very well in those days. No one ever had a heart attack from all the fat coz you were eaten by animals before you hit 40.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Every medication & even procedure has a failure rate. Perfection doesn't exist.
DBRCT will show you if a medicine will work better than a placebo in large groups of people. So the medicine might reduce the symptoms in 89% of people in the experimental group but in the placebo group the symptoms are reduced in only 25% of the people, we can say that the medicine is obviously effective.

It would be interesting to do an experiment as to why the placebo worked in 25% it obviously has to do with the mindset of those people, it would be the same with homeopathic medicine, chinese herbs and the like if the patients participating truly believe that the results would be positive then like the placebo the results would be similar.
I think the state of mind is a very powerful tool as an aid to overcoming illness, there is even placebo surgery which has had 100% positive results for those taking part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvbQnMvhQFw

 

[Bribie G]

I believe that food is medicine, and the John Hunter Hospital supports me in this. As an example here's the breakfast I had yesterday in the hospital cafe while I was waiting for my mate to be discharged.



Actually take away the toast and it's paleo compliant so they nearly got it right . Cracking good value for $12 - I counted 8 streaky bacon rashers

 

[Bribie G]

And another thing, why are Pharmacists almost always Happy Clapping Fundo Christos? Whenever I go into a chemist they always seem to be playing Christian radio, you know:

(accompanied by happy mainstream rock music)
I long for the light
I live in darkness
Show me the light
Where is the light
Take me into the light

Ad ******* nauseam

edit: LEDs are coming down in price you silly twats

 

[stewy]

It would be interesting to do an experiment as to why the placebo worked in 25% it obviously has to do with the mindset of those people, it would be the same with homeopathic medicine, chinese herbs and the like if the patients participating truly believe that the results would be positive then like the placebo the results would be similar.
I think the state of mind is a very powerful tool as an aid to overcoming illness, there is even placebo surgery which has had 100% positive results for those taking part.

The placebo effect is well documented & has been studied. It works in some people but the effects are not as long lasting as meds.
Also, it can't stop cancerous cells from mutating or treat pathogens, which is why it's extremely dangerous when people recommend homeopathy in lieu of vaccination or vit c injections instead of chemo