Hop Plantation 2005

[Borret]

Thanks Guys,

I have backed of the watering and will wait at least a few more weeks before hitting it with any more fertiliser. I had just been using the fish emulsion but did give it a kick of urea and postash which migh have put it over the top. Wait and see game.

Borret

 

[dickTed]

This one's been in for 4 weeks now, and it hasn't budged. It's exactly the same as when I planted it.

It was the second last of the ebay Cluster plants.

I'm confident though. It's planted between two posts, and I have a couple of rolls of trellis wire. Just waiting for an inch or two of growth.

The grape vine's starting to shoot - part of my beer garden under construction.

 

[Hopsta]

This one's been in for 4 weeks now, and it hasn't budged. It's exactly the same as when I planted it.

It was the second last of the ebay Cluster plants.

I'm confident though. It's planted between two posts, and I have a couple of rolls of trellis wire. Just waiting for an inch or two of growth.

The grape vine's starting to shoot - part of my beer garden under construction.

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Hey thats the same as my one! Mines also a cluster that i got off ebay and it hasnt budged either! Still looks healthy, just hasnt grown at all in 4-5weeks... might have to re-pot it.... i dunno.

 

[Borret]

Interesting..... that's why I hit mine with the urea/potash in an effort to budge it. It wasn't looking that bad, it just hadn't progressed in about 3 weeks. Started out great, then stopped. Maybe it was a temporary switch to root manufacture now it had leaves.

Waitin' waitin'.

Borret

 

[sosman]

i spoke to Raz the nursery dude today and he basically confirmed what Darren said and also added that nitrogen is like junk food to us, good for a quick fix me up but you gotta have your base minerals covered, easiest he said is seasol seaweed stuff as well as the potash etc.

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I can second the seasol.
Its not easy to see in this pic but the bines are 2/3s up the pole:

 

[Chatty]

Borret, it looks like you have an iron deficiency. I'm not 100% as to mobility of iron in the soil but I would think that a foliar application of an iron rich fertiliser would solve much of the problem. Iron is poorly available in soils with a pH above about 7.5, as are most micronutrients. It would be an idea to test to see what the pH of your soil is and take corrective action if it is too low. Raising the pH of soil is difficult, but I would think a dilute acid solution would be a start. Have a yarn to your local nursery for ideas.

I would also give the hop a bit more room - trim the lawn up a bit! and mulch the area thoroughly.

Chatty

 

[tangent]

the nursery dude says piss on it or better is to compost your old tea bags into some soil will contribute to acidity

 

[THE DRUNK ARAB]

the nursery dude says piss on it or better is to compost your old tea bags into some soil will contribute to acidity

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Piss on something that you hope to use in your beer. :blink:

I'd be taking a bottle of said piss to the nursery dude as appreciation for his advice.

C&B
TDA

 

[tangent]

not on the hops TDA, on the soil
also works wonders on citrus

 

[Borret]

Thanks guys. I will definately being giving the sprayed on seasol/fish guts fertiliser a run to see if it helps. The fish gut's stuf I have has the trace element thing happening.

As far as the soil it's actually in I would assume is relatively balanced as it is essentiall a big hole dug in the ground and filled with a 50L bag of planting mix from bunnings. That said who knows where it's gone since.
Willtake some more progress photos this weekend and see if they have got worse. I still think fertisiler abuse might have been the curse. Will stick with the more mild variants now.

Peeing, ... you can just imagine old grannies doing this for of caper to get the perfect gardenias. (eeewww)
Speaking of acidity.. how does spent hops go for PH reducing mulch. Yates garden guide only mentions hops once in the whole book and it's only as mulch.

Borret

 

[Samwise Gamgee]

not on the hops TDA, on the soil
also works wonders on citrus

Makes it extra tangy?

 

[Darren]

I have heard that only lemons like being pissed on. It can kill other plants especially if it is a hot/strong piss.

 

[Steve]

Borret - your killing it with kindness. Lay off any fertilizer full stop. (only need it couple of times a year anyway). The planting mix from Bunnings will have everything your hop plant needs. Remember they're like a weed that grow wild all over Europe without anyone feeding them seaweed or spraying there leaves with fish guts. Imagine drip feeding a baby with horse steriods - it would seriously freak out....same as your plant is doing. Let it sit and do its own things naturally. Trust me it'll be fine. Mine is in a richly composted vegie patch with mulch and have never seen fertiliser.
Cheers
Steve

 

[tangent]

don't tell my missus Darren but it's working wonders on our oranges and limes also!

Really bad for lawn!

 

[Darren]

Yep, good for citrus

 

[Doc]

Oh the irony guys. My wife only wished I took such an interest in the rest of the garden.
I'm sure your partners are the same

Doc

 

[big d]

my interest in gardening became more interesting to people who dress in khaki or blue for you southerners.i had to give up.
think it was the wrong hop.
next year will be the year of beer hops plus the odd relative thrown in for good mix

venting tonight
big d

 

[Trough Lolly]

next year will be the year of beer hops plus the odd relative thrown in for good mix...

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Yep,
Nothing wrong with a bit of blood and bone! h34r:

Our cat uses the garden bed under the lemon tree as it's giant kitty litter tray and we always get a hessian sack full of kickass lemons every year! Makes a mouth puckering lemon meringue pie! :blink:

TL

 

[Trough Lolly]

Lurching back on topic for a moment - the Chinook is going great guns and is working up the wire - it's in a full blown race for the trellis fence against two cab sav and two black shiraz vines that are going off too!

TL

 

[Doc]

The recent cooler snap and rain in Sydney has seen my hop plants barely move in a week. Are other Sydney-siders seeing the same thing ?

Doc