Hop Plantation 2005

[Tony]

hi fellow hop growers.

My hallertau plant has taken off in the last couple of weeks.

Its looking a bit sad at the moment after someones cat tramples half the shoots and a couple of big storms have pounded it.

I relocated it yesterday to an animal safe spot and have erected a temp climbing rope for it till i get the stand put up.

I gave it a good feed with blood and bone, potash and some slow release plant food.

cheers

 

[BigAl]

Any sandgropers out there had any decent growth in their hops yet? Mine (3rd year vintage) are still at ground level with a few leaves here and there, possibly 10cm high , but nothing like those over in the east. It has been unusually wet and cold in Perth so far this spring.

 

[Steve]

You'd think it would be thriving BigAl - that sounds like typical European weather (even in summer)

 

[Borret]

Well there may be a ray of hope. :unsure:

I went down to takethe photo's as promised and it appears the is a glimmer of new light as I found 2 new sturdy shoots out to the sides of the plant that definately weren't there a week ago. You can still see that something heinous is goin on with the rest of it. <_<



Also here's a photo of the cutting. For scale the pot it is in is a bit bigger than a single serve pie dish in diameter.



Cheers

Borret

 

[deadly]

Looks like fertiliser burn to me,test the soil for ph adjust with trace elements -maybe potash

 

[Chatty]

Borret! You have a chronic manganese/iron deficiency in your hops! I'm leaning toward a Mn deficiency due to the necrotic spots developing in the leaves. Either way, the plant won't be functioning well physiologically.

Iron is needed for chlorophyll production, Mn is needed for enzyme production.

A foliar fertiliser would fix this in no time. I sprayed my potatoes with a foliar fert the other day to correct a P deficiency and within 2 days there was a significant lift in plant growth.

I'll see if I can attach your photo with the spots highlighted for you.



Chatty

 

[Borret]

Borret! You have a chronic manganese/iron deficiency in your hops! I'm leaning toward a Mn deficiency due to the necrotic spots developing in the leaves. Either way, the plant won't be functioning well physiologically.

Iron is needed for chlorophyll production, Mn is needed for enzyme production.

A foliar fertiliser would fix this in no time. I sprayed my potatoes with a foliar fert the other day to correct a P deficiency and within 2 days there was a significant lift in plant growth.

I'll see if I can attach your photo with the spots highlighted for you.

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Chatty

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So are we talking 'seasol' here. Or something else.

Cheers

Borret

 

[chillamacgilla73]

Any sandgropers out there had any decent growth in their hops yet? Mine (3rd year vintage) are still at ground level with a few leaves here and there, possibly 10cm high , but nothing like those over in the east. It has been unusually wet and cold in Perth so far this spring.

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My POR, ex-Deebees plantation, is still small(5-10cm) and the new rhizomes I bought(Tettnanger & Hallertau) are sitting dormant in pots I had a gentle look to see if the newbies had any fresh roots and was pleasantly surprised to find large fresh roots. I am hoping it is due to the late start to spring in Perth and have high hopes once the weather turns. I have a digital indoor/outdoor min/max thermometer and our place is consistently 3-5 degress cooler than the flatlands so I'm hoping that has also slowed my babies up.

 

[tangent]

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/afcm/hop.html

Mine are taking off! More pics soon. One runner has grown about 4cm per day!

Definitely interested in some trading, if other Adelaide growers are keen.
I've got Hersbrucker and am looking for Fuggles and Goldings, or anything else.

 

[Duff]

If you find your hops are struggling some what, the first step is to check your soil pH. Have a look at the following classic image:






Buy a pH test kit from the hardware store. If your pH is lower than 6.0, then you need to add lime, if it is higher than 7.0 then add some form of sulphur based fertiliser to lower it. pH is a log scale, if your pH is 5 then you need to add the equivalent of 100gm per 1sqm to raise it 1 pH point. Once you get your pH between 6 - 7 then all of the essential nutrients will become naturally available within the soil for the plant. Then you can start to implement a regular fertiliser programme which includes a full range of macro and micro nutrients.

Cheers.

 

[deebee]

Any sandgropers out there had any decent growth in their hops yet? Mine (3rd year vintage) are still at ground level with a few leaves here and there, possibly 10cm high , but nothing like those over in the east. It has been unusually wet and cold in Perth so far this spring.

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My POR, ex-Deebees plantation, is still small(5-10cm) and the new rhizomes I bought(Tettnanger & Hallertau) are sitting dormant in pots I had a gentle look to see if the newbies had any fresh roots and was pleasantly surprised to find large fresh roots. I am hoping it is due to the late start to spring in Perth and have high hopes once the weather turns. I have a digital indoor/outdoor min/max thermometer and our place is consistently 3-5 degress cooler than the flatlands so I'm hoping that has also slowed my babies up.

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Yeah my POR babyis still dribbling along at ground level. I think ausdb said his were doing a bit better than mine when he dropped round last weekend.

Not too worried. It looks healthy, just not growing much yet. It'll warm up in a couple of weeks.

 

[Asher]

My Ornamental Hallertau are still at ground level.

After spending the last 2 yeast in a cool shady spot due to being realestaely challenged they have just been moved to a nice sunny spot in my new backyard. decision on where to put them was based on Goats hop positioning....

Hopefully a mass of bines will emerge once this ridiculously cold weather moves on...

Asher for now

 

[tangent]

this is a closeup of the base of the plant.
shows the prickly bits a bit better.
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[Goat]

Mine - which went like a scalded cat last year, has only just broken through the ground and is going very slowly indeed.

Until I read the post by Al, Deebee and Asher I thought I had root rot or something. It has been a wet and cold spring so I'm hoping that things will warm up soon.

 

[Trough Lolly]

My Chinook is growing steadily up the wires - several good runners and it's looking quite healthy after the Nitrosol feed before about 3 days of good soaking rain and relatively mild temps.

The 2y.o. Goldings is going berserk after the Nitrosol feed! From next to nothing two weeks ago, a whole bloody crown of shoots (numbers unknown, they're appearing every day!) and it's overtaken the Chinook and is heading skywards! Looks like I'll be doing a few brews next year with Goldings cones as the main ingredient - I'm thinking of cutting off some of the runners and re-propagating them in nursery pots with a bit of root growth formula. Pics to follow...

TL

 

[johnno]

I just cut about 6 leafy shoots from mine and left 4 strong looking ones.
Its looking like a very good weed at the moment.

johnno

 

[Chatty]

Borret, I would track down a soluble powder fertiliser. There is one produced by Yates that I use, however there are plenty of others on the market. If possible, find a vegie formulation that has a higher level of K relative to N. After all, we want a hop plant that produces hops, not leaves!

pH, although important, isn't the be all and end all of plant nutrition. A well mulched soil shouldn't have any problems with pH, but there are a number of other disorders that can induce deficiencies.

Chatty

 

[Darren]

I'm thinking of cutting off some of the runners and re-propagating them in nursery pots with a bit of root growth formula. Pics to follow...

TL

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TL, no need for fancy root growth compounds. Take the cutting, remove most of the bottom leaves and place it in a glass of water for about three weeks. There will be plenty of roots then plant it in some soil.

 

[tangent]

wow, that easy

 

[Darren]

Yep