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I'm up to rev 3 of this brew and I think it's my best one yet

Hopocalypse now4 - a new hope

2x 1.5 coopers light malt tins
1.5 coopers wheat tin
70g of dextrose as it was kicking around in the brew box
300g medium crystal

Grains for 30 mins in 1.5l of 70°c water in the Thermomix

Strain and then add 5 l of water to the pot. Add about 500g of the lme and the dextrose and bring to the boil

15g magnum (AA 8.4%) @ 60 mins
10g magnum @ 30 mins

20g cascade
10g citra
10g galaxy
10g simcoe all in at 10 mins

Same hops again at 5 mins

Allow wort to cool for about 10 mins
Ice bath in the laundry sink to further cool

Tip it all into the fv and aerate well then make up to 23litres
Og of 1063. Fg of 1014
Us-05 pitched at 23°
Into the fermenting fridge at 18° and left for 2 weeks.
Cold crash for 3 days at 1°

Bulk primed with 170g dextrose for bottling.

The change is the magnum this time and it's really smoothed it out compared to 15g Amarillo @60 mins I have used before.
 
I plan on doing WWDWD's recipe this weekend but doing a full extract boil, using my wort chiller to get it to ferment temp quickly any suggestions in timming of adding LME and DME would be appreciated
 
WWDWD said:
I wanna have a go at making a Hop Hog clone. Here’s my recipe so far (made with the help of Ian’s spreadsheet). Only my 6th or 7th brew… so please, any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Wet Dogz' Hop Hog

1.5kg Light LME
1.5kg Wheat LME
500g LDME
400g Crystal grain
US05 yeast

20g Centennial @ 60mins

30g Centennial @ 5mins
30g Galaxy @ 5mins
30g Citra @ 5mins

20g Centennial dryhop
20g Galaxy dryhop
20g Citra dryhop

Boil: 4l
Final volume: 21l
Fermentation temp 18°C

IBU 47.7 vs. Hop Hog 48
ABV 5.9% vs. Hop Hog 5.8%
EBC 12 (perhaps a little light, but I’m cool with that… anyone know what hop hog is?)
i plan on doing this next weekend. i am moving up to a full boil extract volume. i have my 75,000 btu burner turning up this week.

what (if anything) would i have to change.... any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated
 
spookus13b said:
i plan on doing this next weekend. i am moving up to a full boil extract volume. i have my 75,000 btu burner turning up this week.

what (if anything) would i have to change.... any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated
One thought would be because it's a new toy, you won't know the evaporation rate to get to 21L. If it boils lower than that you can add water, but if it doesn't boil off enough, you will be stuck with lower OG and hop utilisation.
 
I'm a bit curious about the wheat LME.
I've never used this before and just wondering if it is actually known that hop hog has wheat in it or if it is just a bit of a (educated) guess??
 
Gday guys
Just joined up cos i loved the look of this recipe.
So ive got it brewing right now( day 10 in fermenter) but all the action seems to have stopped at 1.020.
Ive upped the ingredients to make 23l...
1.7kg black rock light pale LME
1.7kg black rock wheat LME
1kg DME
250g crystal
Then upped the hops also to match.
O.G. 1.064
Any thoughts on my final gravity?
Cheers
 
Whoops should have added that
US-05 at 18-19°.
It reached 1.020 after about 6 days
 
elreecey said:
Whoops should have added that
US-05 at 18-19°.
It reached 1.020 after about 6 days
Don't be scared to bump the temp up to ~22oC to try and get the yeast going again. I'd be expecting it to get down to the mid teens.
The vast majority of fermentation is done, so the chance of off-flavours from the higher temp are slim to nil. You can even give the fermenter a gentle swirl to rouse the yeast when you raise the temp (just don't slosh the beer while you do it, or you'll start oxidizing it).
 
Cheers goatchop
ended up bottling at 1.018, 3 days ago.
I'll give it another week then sample, can't wait.
Will report back
 
hi everyone well done on such a great thread!
I am doing WWDWD's original recipie in an 18l boil. I have put it into Brewsmith and If i add the tins of extract after the boil as usual then the IBU's are 75.3
I put the exact same recipe and steps into Iains Spreadsheet and it says the IBU's will be 50.3
Why the discrepancy? Should i just go ahead with it anyway?
Thanks in advance,
Richie
 
IIs it to do with hop utilisatio? Are you boiling with the same gravity as the original poster?
 
thanks for the reply, yep same gravity... really want to give this a crack but i want to be true to the recipe. If i add the 2 tins of LME to the boil then it brings it down to 50 IBU. Should i just do that? I don't really want to as it will be harder to bring it down to 18 degrees in the ice bath.
Cheers,
Richie
 
stompnground said:
thanks for the reply, yep same gravity... really want to give this a crack but i want to be true to the recipe. If i add the 2 tins of LME to the boil then it brings it down to 50 IBU. Should i just do that? I don't really want to as it will be harder to bring it down to 18 degrees in the ice bath.
Cheers,
Richie
Are you sure your boil gravity is the same? The original poster said he does a 4L boil and you are saying you are doing an 18L boil.

Your boil gravity (not original gravity in the fermenter) is what matters for hop utilisation.
 
aahhhh i see. I was looking at OG. I think his pre-boil was around 1.040 I just subbed out one tin of LME for DME to adjust my pre-boil gravity.
My preboil gravity is now 1.039 and IBU is now 61. OG 1.053 and 5.1% alc. getting closer... should they be the same?
cheers!
 
stompnground said:
aahhhh i see. I was looking at OG. I think his pre-boil was around 1.040 I just subbed out one tin of LME for DME to adjust my pre-boil gravity.
My preboil gravity is now 1.039 and IBU is now 61. OG 1.053 and 5.1% alc. getting closer... should they be the same?
cheers!
They should be close.
 
thanks for your help Dan, i will keep playing with it. really looking forward to this one!
 
Hi guys,

Sorry to bump up an old thread but I'm keen to give this one a go soon. I've seen posted around the forum that galaxy can give a hash bitterness if used as the bittering addition at the start of the boil. Has anyone experienced that with this recipe?

Cheers
Tom
 
murpho said:
Hi guys,

Sorry to bump up an old thread but I'm keen to give this one a go soon. I've seen posted around the forum that galaxy can give a hash bitterness if used as the bittering addition at the start of the boil. Has anyone experienced that with this recipe?

Cheers
Tom
Hi Murpho. I've used galaxy at 30 minutes as "bittering" addition in an all galaxy pale ale. while I've only done it once i didn't have an issue with it. But it was that exact info ( the harsh bittering) that made me not do any additions before 30 minutes. I've done a version of the hop hog clone but i used simcoe as the bittering addition. I'd probably not risk it myself. Hope that helps.
 
burrster said:
Hi Murpho. I've used galaxy at 30 minutes as "bittering" addition in an all galaxy pale ale. while I've only done it once i didn't have an issue with it. But it was that exact info ( the harsh bittering) that made me not do any additions before 30 minutes. I've done a version of the hop hog clone but i used simcoe as the bittering addition. I'd probably not risk it myself. Hope that helps.
thanks burrster, yeah I'm thinking it might not be best until I've tried a galaxy brew. I'll probably use something else for the bittering addition, possibly magnum as i have some of that lying around and its worked well every time I've used it. Might not be true to this beer but I just want to make something similar that tastes good :)

cheers,
tom
 
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