Help with recipes

[Moad]

All,

I have some galaxy hop flowers that I want to want to use. I also have some ella pellets I would like to use up. I was thinking of doing an IPA or Pale and using the hopback with the flowers. Would an IPA with these two hops be too over the top?

I haven't brewed many IPA's, i have a stack of pilsner malt... can I use that as the base with a bit of choc or something middle of the road to give it some colour. The malt is just supporting the hops right?

Cheers

 

[Bbowzky1]

I dont know much about making recipes. I usually copy or modify a recipe I've found.

I will say tho that ella and galaxy to me would be aroma hops. Galaxy would be great in a IPA however im not sure if ella and galaxy alone will make one. I usually brew an IPA with several different types of bittering flavour aroma hops to 65 ish IBU and then dry hop 60-100g of pellets.

Ella is a great larger hop just not sure how itll fit into an IPA as i feel its not as in your face.

Basically id be looking at a pale.
You could maybe use your pilsner malt (2-row or similar? Or caramel?) Add some crystal and id like to say ella as ya bittering hops and galaxy whirlpool or dry hop after primary however i think youll get a better beer going galaxy then ella.

I could be so wrong and off the money however yeah im not really a recipe maker i just thought id be cool and comment haha

 

[Moad]

They are both high alpha so should be ok bittering, not sure how much of the flavour comes through from bittering hops. I have some ekg and willamette I could use for more subtle bittering in that case.

I have some US cascade to throw into the mix too but I really just wanted to get use one or two hops to see what they do

 

[danestead]

I'd be adding somewhere in the region of 3-5% of any crystal malt if you have some. Choc malt in an american pale ale or ipa isnt really my thing however I love about 2% in an amber ale.

 

[danestead]

They are both high alpha so should be ok bittering, not sure how much of the flavour comes through from bittering hops. I have some ekg and willamette I could use for more subtle bittering in that case.

I have some US cascade to throw into the mix too but I really just wanted to get use one or two hops to see what they do

I haven't used galaxy much, and definitely haven't used it for bittering but I think I read that it is not a good bittering hop. Do a search on it.

Bittering additions do definitely give some flavour. In a hoppy ale, probably not very noticeable however I just got judging score sheets back for a beer i brewed with 100% vienna malt and a 60 minute addition of hallertau hops and 1 judge said too much hop flavour for the style haha. There is also quite a hoppy aroma too it. As a side note, I found it funny because another judge commented on good malt complexity haha

 

[Moad]

Yeah I guess they are pretty intense flavour hops, maybe bittering with willamette might give a bit more "rounded" bitterness. Not sure

Taste is very subjective, must be tough to judge beers and can totally understand the different feedback

 

[Bbowzky1]

Yeah as mentioned in my first comment both would be aroma flavour hops rather bittering.
100% on a crystal addition

 

[Dan Pratt]

Hey moad,

If you can get a few things extra you will be able to explore the to hops for flavour and aroma. Firstly as mentioned, add up to 5% crystal if it's an IPA, if your going for a pale ale also include 10-15% Vienna or Munich.

For the hops, if you can't get magnum or warrior for a nice bittering charge, use the EKG. I'd use the two hops Ella and Galaxy very late in the kettle, even amounts of each at 10mins and a 10min Hopstand aft flameout plus load up on the dry hop for about 3-5 days after ferment.

 

[pist]

I love throwing a little bit of dark crystal at my ipas. Gives a nice amber to copper colour and roasty malty flavour. Ella and galaxy should go well together, just use em late and dry hop as everyone else has mentioned

 

[Moad]

Ok will get some magnum and crystal for an IPA, will save the pale for warmer weather. I'm pretty excited to use the flowers in the hopback

 

[yankinoz]

There are commericial beers such as Stone & Wood Pacific that use Galaxy for bittering, but they are not high in IBUs like an IPA. I have used Galaxy for bittering and won't do it again.

What Galaxyj delivers in spades is delicious fruii, including to me some peach. Use it in a flavour addition at -15 to -20 minutes as well as very late for aroma.

Buth Galaxy's flavour and aroma is a bit one-dimensional. I like it alone as a late addition in blonde bales ut would definitely add one or more other hops in an IPA. Cascade should go well with it: floral, fruity in a different way than Galaxy. I don't know much about Ella as a bittering or aroma hop.

 

[Rocker1986]

I love Magnum for bittering, it's basically what goes into all my recipes apart from continental lagers etc. where I only use noble hops. If you can get a hold of it, give it a go. B)

 

[Yob]

I love Magnum for bittering, it's basically what goes into all my recipes apart from continental lagers etc. where I only use noble hops. If you can get a hold of it, give it a go. B)

German Magnum, not US right?

 

[Rocker1986]

Yes, the Magnum I currently have in the freezer is German. Not sure if I've used the US version or not, what differences are there between the two?