GUTEN

[wide eyed and legless]

I have just thought, that price has certainly knocked my idea of selling mine second hand for $350, with no hop timer or recipe memory.

 

[Abird89]

Yes I think their price on the 30L is good ($380) but they asking $740 for the 50L which seems high to me, is it really $360 more kit than the 30L? I think not

Agreed, was hoping the 50L would be a bit cheaper than that.
Interested to see what their upgraded controller looks like.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Agreed, was hoping the 50L would be a bit cheaper than that.
Interested to see what their upgraded controller looks like.

Nothing wrong with a good haggle.

 

[lost at sea]

I was waiting for the next G&G sale to buy a 50L Braumeister but now I have to decide if one is worth 4.25x the price of a Guten.

im in the same boat as you, and ive decided the 50L brau is worth it over the other crap on the market, even if i get a 2nd hand BM50 ill be happier than a new knock off (guten/robo ect)

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I have to agree having both, though I do find the Guten gets better efficiency for some reason with a standard grain to water ratio and the BM gets better efficiency at a full mash volume If money is no problem and one is into brewing for the long haul then tick the BM box.

 

[Abird89]

G&G 10% off Braumeister sale just went up on facebook...

 

[cliffo]

G&G 10% off Braumeister sale just went up on facebook

...and there's my trigger

 

[lost at sea]

...and there's my trigger

i was just looking at prices online today, are you going the original 50 or the 50plus?

 

[cliffo]

i was just looking at prices online today, are you going the original 50 or the 50plus?

The original. I don't see the value in the plus. Would rather use an immersion chiller.

Of course in still debating which way I go between the Guten and BM. Leaning towards the BM though.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

The original. I don't see the value in the plus. Would rather use an immersion chiller.

Of course in still debating which way I go between the Guten and BM. Leaning towards the BM though.

I doubt very much the Guten 50 litre price is set in concrete, going by what was previously said in the difference in a 30 and 50 litre seems to extreme, really want a 50 litre unit but will definitely haggle strongly on the price, around the $600 would seem a more fair price.

 

[lost at sea]

y

The original. I don't see the value in the plus. Would rather use an immersion chiller.

Of course in still debating which way I go between the Guten and BM. Leaning towards the BM though.

yep i thought the same, a few months ago there was a flurry of BMs for sale on here, now none.....ill do a few more cashies and buy a new one next year i think when G&G has a discount

 

[cliffo]

I just pulled the trigger on a 50L BM and accessories.

Couldn't resist at the current price and it will be the long term system for me now.

 

[lost at sea]

I just pulled the trigger on a 50L BM and accessories.

Couldn't resist at the current price and it will be the long term system for me now.

lucky bugger, what system are you currently brewing on?

 

[cliffo]

what system are you currently brewing on?

Been using a Robobrew v2 for the past 2 1/2 years.

Has worked without issue but am looking forward to returning to brewing on a BM.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I just pulled the trigger on a 50L BM and accessories.

Couldn't resist at the current price and it will be the long term system for me now.

You won't regret it.

 

[cliffo]

You won't regret it.

Had a 50L BM a few years ago before I sold it so know what to expect and am very much looking forward to being back brewing on one.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Did a double batch Sunday, both identical grain, both identical water amounts and treatment, was actually surprised at the outcome.
Were off with the mash.

To be fair kept the level below the overflow though I don't believe it makes any difference.

The boil.
Interestingly the pre boil gravity were both exactly the same. Final gravity the BM which lagged behind the boil of the Guten came out at 1,051 and the Guten 1,048. theoretically should both have been the same

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Nothing to do with the head to head but ferment started within 5 hours. Daisy chained the fermenters to the secondary's, purging the secondary's of any oxygen before applying a little pressure.

 

[Dubzie]

Nothing to do with the head to head but ferment started within 5 hours. Daisy chained the fermenters to the secondary's, purging the secondary's of any oxygen before applying a little pressure.
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OT question, how easy/hard is it to clean the cubes?

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Real easy, just a soak in sodium perborate / percarbonate, which ever you use.