Guide To Keg Forced Carbonation.

[mxd]

there is a spreadsheet about balancing. But it depends on your temp and beer style, for me 2degrees 2.5 to 2.6 carbonation and 75-80 kpa.

 

[mxd]

your beer and headspace will (over same time) equalise. So if you pour a couple of litres same co2 will move out of beer into headspace (I thin it takes a while)

Hey all

I've got my keg of dopplesticke carbed up nicely now after setting the reg to serving pressure and keeping the keg at 5C. If I now disconnect the gas from that keg will the CO2 stay in solution and the beer continue to pour well? Just seeing if I can save on gas (using a sodastream bottle) for the next keg.

Cheers

ToG

 

[kwazzie]

:drinks:

hey......man ive been doin it the hard way gassing my 19Ltr party keg up to 300Kpa then charging it back up the next day and so on for a week then drinking but this method freakin blew my mind to be honest really pleased i got onto this site and look forward to learning plenty more cheers boys​

 

[stux]

I suspect the method documented in this thread should actually be called "Crash Carbonation"

Its basically a way to force carbonate a keg in a very minimal amount of time, me personally, i can't be arsed with all this physical shaking stuff

The simple way to force carbonate is to set a keg to 300kpa for 30hrs when its been pre-chilled.

Tada.


I brew in a fridge with hot/cold controller, so about 6+ hours before I intend to keg I just set the controller to 4C or so, and knock the temp down.

The brew rapidly clears, and then I just gravity feed into a C02 purged keg.

Bung the whole thing into the keg fridge and pop the gas on at 300kpa, burping the keg a couple of times before closing the door.

Turn off gas at regulator 30hrs later, release pressure, and turn gas back on at dispensing pressure (circa 80kpa for me)

If I've undercarbed I just set the pressure to 100kpa, and it'll carb up in a few days.

If you over carb at 30hrs, just reduce the amount of time you force carb, say 26 or 28 hrs.

The key is to have a consistent keg temperature when you carb so you get consistent results.

If you're waiting 30 hrs to cool the keg... you might as well wait 30 hrs to carbonate it instead, and cool the beer in the fermenter instead!

 

[///]

Tried google and AHB for ages but cant find the spreadsheet I used to use at the brewery. I'm sure theres a spreadsheet from Wort Games which is in celcius vs pressure. Anyne got it on hand or the location??

Scotty

 

[razz]

Tried google and AHB for ages but cant find the spreadsheet I used to use at the brewery. I'm sure theres a spreadsheet from Wort Games which is in celcius vs pressure. Anyne got it on hand or the location??

Scotty

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...;showarticle=24

 

[np1962]

Tried google and AHB for ages but cant find the spreadsheet I used to use at the brewery. I'm sure theres a spreadsheet from Wort Games which is in celcius vs pressure. Anyne got it on hand or the location??

Scotty

THREAD

Cheers
Nige

 

[globe]

Hi everyone
i just kegged my first keg tonight after force carbonating
the keg...but its got too much head....the beer that is!
what went wrong?

Please help?

Parko

THREAD

Cheers
Nige

 

[Cocko]

Too much head and the beer is a itself little flat?

 

[kelbygreen]

its over carbed. did you barp the keg befor you poured some beer? how long did you leave the gas on and at what pressure???

 

[globe]

yeh i did i let some air out of the keg.
i left it like that for 5 mins before attmepting first pour.
the gas was normal between 50-75kpi and the other gauge was 1 bar.
is there any way to under carb the beer?
its a muntons scotch ale!!

Parko

its over carbed. did you barp the keg befor you poured some beer? how long did you leave the gas on and at what pressure???

 

[kelbygreen]

you mean psi??? what pressure did you force carb at? and how long did you force carb for?

 

[globe]

ok i attached all the ball locks....put the co2 at 200kpi for 5 mins
while rocking back n forth.then at 300kpi for 30seconds. then let
the keg sit in the fridge for 2 days then as ive written in the posts before
thats what ive done today.
by the sounds its over carbed and cant be rescued.

I hope so though

Parko

 

[michael_aussie]

ok i attached all the ball locks....put the co2 at 200kpi for 5 mins
while rocking back n forth.then at 300kpi for 30seconds. then let
the keg sit in the fridge for 2 days then as ive written in the posts before
thats what ive done today.
by the sounds its over carbed and cant be rescued.

I hope so though

Parko

Never fear ... your beer will be able to be rescued.
If it its over carbonated, disconnect the gas from the keg.
Burp the keg (release all the the gas by pulling open the pressure relief valve).
Let the keg sit = hours or even a day.
Test again = try to pour another beer.
If still overcarbed repeat.

 

[globe]

awesome Michael aussie will try it right now....as im on holidays
its all the more better to try and work out these things while I have
time.

Cheers to the audience of aussiehomebrewer.com

when my first proper pour from my keg happens...i cheers you

Parko

 

[kelbygreen]

to force carb search "ross method" I think its best to carb at serving pressure by connecting to the beer out and rocking for 15mins you cannot over carb it that way

 

[Cocko]

A good way I find to sort an over shook keg is:

Disconnect gas all together.

serve a heady beer.

Then keep pouring until the keg cannot serve anymore.

Tomorrow, repeat.


2c.

 

[globe]

Does anyone have the issue of the beer pouring to quickly?
Because i get beer but its only 1/4 of the glass. If it happens
again tomorrow i'll take a photo and post.
If i try and half pour its all head......

Parko

 

[Leigh]

to force carb search "ross method" I think its best to carb at serving pressure by connecting to the beer out and rocking for 15mins you cannot over carb it that way

Just go back to Post 1 in this thread...

 

[Amber Fluid]

Even though this will still take a while but here is a quicker way to "de-gas" your keg:

Burb the keg
Shake **** out of it
Let it sit for around 10 minutes or so and repeat.

 

[mattric]

I'm in a little bit of a dilema. I put a brew of Kriek in last week which is due to be done fermenting on wednesday next week. The wife is having a get together on Sunday and is wanting me to put my beer on tap on my newly untested kegerator.

I've checked out all of the gear with water but I'm going to need to force carb the been to be ready in time.

Am I correct in understanding that the Ross method you connect the gas to the OUT connection on the keg? If this is the case then when pressure is applied wouldn't the beer fill into the reg? (gas applying pressure on top of the liquid)

 

[fcmcg]

Am I correct in understanding that the Ross method you connect the gas to the OUT connection on the keg? If this is the case then when pressure is applied wouldn't the beer fill into the reg? (gas applying pressure on top of the liquid)

Mate...
What you do is have a "beer -out " ball valve connected to your gas line( disconect your tap)...provided your keg is cold ( in which case any gas you put into the keg , when you filled the keg from your fermenter, would have semi dissolved into the beer..so your keg is actuallty now holding less gas pressure than what your about to put in), attachch the appropriate ball valve to the beer out.This dip tube goes alway the way to the bottom of the keg.It makes the gas come up through the beer , instead of being put in via the normal gas in tube.Follow the Ross method , as suggested.
When you need to serve , swap your ball valves back to the appropriate lines ( that is put the beer out ball valve back to your tap/pluto line and put your gas line ball vale back onto your gas line)
As long as you are putting in a greater amount of gas volume into the keg , than the pressure you already have in it , you won't keg beer back up the line , into the keg.Beer won't come up the dip tube and into the line as long as gas in flowinhg into the keg !
Hope this helps !
Ferg
( who really should go to bed and stop drinking this saison)

 

[ledgenko]

I am not sure if I am on my own here but I wind my CO2 out to about 250 - 300 and hit it through the out post wait til the bubbling stops and remove the gas line .. let it sit for a day or two and then the gas seems to be just right to put the pouring pressure of 80 - 100 and life is good..

Am I creating a time bomb by doing this ??

This is the method I have used for past 8-9 kegs with out issue ..

 

[raysailing]

it is a very good method

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[GrainStain]

Guys,

Need some help here I think I am going loopy. I always have my reg set to 80 Kpa forserving. I noticed it creeping up past100 Kpa the other day. I kept bringingit back to 60 Kpa but after several hours it would keep climbing past 90 Kpa. After days of trying to adjust it, I gave upand connected a new cylinder.

The new cylinder sat bang on 80Kpa for several days with noissue. For an experiment I re connectedthe old cylinder and behold after a few hours it climbed to 100kpa again

Can anyone tell my why a near empty cylinder is pushing outmore pressure than a new one?

Both are 2.x Kg units from brewcraft, and both live outsideof the fridge (unit in question used to be inside the fridge)

Cheers,

Tony

 

[maxi75]

Hi Guys

Just a quick question regarding forced carbonation. Once you have gassed the keg and it says to leave for an hour, is it ok to leave in fridge or does it have stay at room temp??
Sorry for the dumb newbie question and thanks in advance.

 

[Amber Fluid]

Put it in the fridge mate.

 

[maxi75]

Put it in the fridge mate.

Thanks for that
it's in the fridge now and hopefully i will having my first glass tommorrow night while the footy finals are on. :icon_cheers:

 

[cat007]

Hey

I tried the 40psi/275kpa (can't do 45psi as my reg does strange things above 42psi) and rocking for 50 seconds method - but when I turn the regulator off, the pressure settles back to about 28-30psi/190-205kpa.

I thought 'OH CRAP I've over carbonated the beer!' but when let the keg sit for an hour I released the pressure and tested the beer by pouring it into a glass and it's only slightly carbonated.

I really want to get this 'fast carbonating' method down packed - as I don't really want to have to wait for over a week for each batch to carb up.

Any pointers?

Hunt

 

[Jace89]

Im still learning myself, but I've cut the rocking back to about 40secs. I'd rather have under carbed then over. Over a couple of days it balances out anyways, I'm sure yours will at some point