Goodbye Bronwyn

[Ducatiboy stu]

A lot of people who run businesses, put everything on the line when they back themselves to have a crack, rather than just be content to work for the man.

Many of these people work for next to nothing in the early days, pumping everything back into the business just so that they can get it up and running. When these businesses grow they employ people.

I suspect that some people commenting here, think that business owners are rolling in green stuff while underpaying their employees.

True. So very true.

The family company I work for is just like that. Its there money and *** on the line at the end of the day.

BUT...they dont try to exploit us like some others I have worked for. They are very fair and tolerant.

I also know lots of people who work for small business owners who get ****** over royaly by the greedy owners

 

[Black Devil Dog]

I also know lots of people who work for small business owners who get ****** over royaly by the greedy owners

I'm sure that happens a lot, it's happened to me. There are also employees who aren't worth what they get paid and there are also employees who rip of their employer.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

It would be fairly ridiculous to to accuse a former Justice of the High Court of actual bias (which isn't happening here) - but this fiasco is getting fun, from a politics-as-sport point of view.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/dyson-heydon-was-on-panel-that-awarded-tony-abbott-his-prized-rhodes-scholarship-20150817-gj0o8o.html

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I'm sure that happens a lot, it's happened to me. There are also employees who aren't worth what they get paid and there are also employees who rip of their employer.

This is also true. I know cause I have worked with some incredibly lazy people who would dodge work, complain about everything, always bullshitting about how hard the job was..etc..etc... Fuckers where not worth worth paying

And then when I was on the dole for a bit ( earning all of $500 F/N ) there where blokes who just wouldnt work and where basically unemployable, and I truly mean unemployable...rather sad really

 

[dicko]

This topic is bigger than "Bronwyn Hair"....

 

[manticle]

A lot of people who run businesses, put everything on the line when they back themselves to have a crack, rather than just be content to work for the man.

Many of these people work for next to nothing in the early days, pumping everything back into the business just so that they can get it up and running. When these businesses grow they employ people.

I suspect that some people commenting here, think that business owners are rolling in green stuff while underpaying their employees.

Of course. It's easy to demonise either side and the reality is rarely the stereotype. There are some utterly arsehole employers and some lazy entitled employees that contribute to bad reputations. I've met/worked with/worked for both types.

 

[Dave70]

hehe, yeah. She had a valid but terribly expressed point.. then again, no more looney than Barnaby Joyce, Corey Bernardi, or dare I say Abbott himself.

All I can really do is cry myself to sleep hoping for some politicians that are worth voting for, rather than against.

Prophetic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc96KVsTKtY

and:

Keating, March 1994:
THE person replacing the former member for Warringah [Abbott] has nothing like the progressive social views or contact with the community that the former member had. He at least was able sensibly to relate to the kind of society we now have. As I said the other day, they are being replaced by fogies-a fogey being a person who is attached to old values and old norms that are now irrelevant. It is true to say that we are seeing a combination of old fogies and young fogies, but nevertheless 24-carat fogies. I know when I look at these poor dispirited people opposite - the remnants of Australia's failed upper class and management group, the born-to-rule squad who have been out now mournfully, wistfully, for 11 years going on 13 - that, when they see the likes of Bronwyn Bishop and Tony Abbott coming into their ranks, their hearts must sink.

*cough*..

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-reintroduces-knight-and-dame-honours-for-australians-20140325-35fzo.html

 

[Liam_snorkel]

yep, hence why I said "prophetic" :unsure:

 

[madpierre06]

Discussing at one of my lectures yesterday, what it will take to turn this country around.

An alternate option to the current choices we have to vote for - providing the system allows him/her to get there in the first place, and to be honest I believe it is going to take someone who has no aspirations of public office, but someone who is able to come along into the public domain itself and lead.

A man/woman who has no personal interest in promoting themself, just a clear message and vision to and for the benefit of this country and her people

They must be of courage and compassion, integrity etc (all the finest personal qualities)

The must be prepared to wear the flak which will surely be stirred up against 'em by the entrenched snouts and their media conglomerate masters

I know a bloke who fits that description, but he's not around anymore.

Anyway, to quote the great Zeb Coulter - "We, the people!" :lol: Well, you know what I mean.

 

[Dave70]

Many people continue to see the Liberal and Labor parties as politically dichotomous. This in no way reflects reality.

Yep. The reality being we're mostly content to suckle at either an LIB or ALP teat and call it milk. And they know it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-01/wolff-culture-of-entitlement-a-damaging-mindframe/3706150

 

[madpierre06]

The people of this country ( a generalisation, yes I know) are as a whole too happy to be comfortable without thinking too hard about the truth of the situation this country finds itself in. Give 'em their iphones and ipads and a new flatscreen etc, swilled down with large doses of reality tv and the f**king Kardashians which turns the critical thinking parts of the brain to mush and you have a recipe for public ignorance...which is surely bliss.

 

[real_beer]

Australia's hope for the future:

Young people like Jessica Watson showing what can be done chasing your dreams backed with true Queenslander courage to achieve them. A huge thanks must go to her New Zealand parents for realizing their daughter must be born in Qld .

http://www.jessicawatson.com.au/

This page makes good reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_inventions

The following has always irked me as an income earner opportunity missed for both Australia and its people:

If the various governments of the day had used one brain cell each they could have earned trillions of dollars just from all the breakthrough inventions the CSIRO has come out with over the years. But no they just gave the ideas away to the world without a second thought and concentrated on selling sheep and cattle and digging big holes in the ground.

I suppose seeing as so many holes are already dug, we could become the number one toilet for the world's escalating nuclear waste disposal problem. :beerbang:

 

[Dave70]

"Five years ago, former Labor MP and bright boy Lindsay Tanner wrote about the value of intellectual life: "Perhaps it's one of those things that should be restricted to consenting adults in private. Few politicians would own up to being an intellectual. In the present age of vacuous populism, intellectual means elitist, theoretical and out of touch. I suspect a new version of Barry Jones would struggle to win community support."

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/is-antiintellectualism-killing-the-national-conversation-20150801-gipidj.html

 

[Weizguy]

I reckon that's him,a pollie who gave a stuff...I think they're refered to as Dinosaurs these days .

And was succeeded by Joe Hockey - go figure.


Ha ha, a dinosaur succeeded by a hippo. I like that he lost weight immediately before he was elected, so he wouldn't look like a pig when he piled the weight back on post-election

 

[Liam_snorkel]

haha yeah, he had lap-band surgery.
Clearly has been cheating it, sneaking in the calories.. just like he sneaks in the 'travel' expenses for living in his wife's house.

 

[Weizguy]

stretchy, stretchy rubber (lap)band

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Australia's hope for the future:

Young people like Jessica Watson showing what can be done chasing your dreams.

As Henry Ford said, 'A man can if he thinks he can, a man can't if he thinks he can't'

 

[mje1980]

He also doubled his workers wages. How many modern businessmen would do that lol

 

[Black Devil Dog]

Not sure about doubling, but this bloke gave his employees a generous pay rise, while cutting his own very generous salary.

It seems that not all staff are happy though, because even the slackers got a raise.

 

[Lemon]

As Douglas Adams wrote,
"The people vote for the lizards because if they don't , the wrong lizard might get in"