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i spent a lot of time using higher alpa hops to bitter my beers. It made sence!

I just couldnt get the same character in my german lagers as the ones i bought, and it upset me!

i made a german Pilsner...... Becks clone...... with shed loads of hallertau as a 40 min bittering addition, with 1/2g per liter at 5 min. It had a massive noble hop character that was deeper seated into the beer and much more stable than the grassy character you get from lots of late moble hops. far superiour result!

NB is a fine hop....... but if you want top notch german beers...... try using loads of low alpha hops to bitter for a short bittering boil. temperature seems to add a stability of flavour and aroma and you get plenty from a large additon of hops for bittering.

I have found this method works well across lots of styles...... EKG as a bittering hop for a bitter as aposed to target........ big difference.

It all comes down to the beer you want but i do encourage you and others to try the method.

cheers
It makes obvious sense, what brewery is going to do late noble hop additions when they can achieve a better result for less cost by banging it in early.
Gb
 
Munich Dunkel FTW

Weyermann Munich + carafa for colour
Noble hop to 25 IBU
WL833 (bock yeast)

Easy as!

And altbiers rock :icon_drunk:
 
THis is the Oktoberfest i plan to brew next weekend

Oktoberfest

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 54.00 Wort Size (L): 54.00
Total Grain (kg): 11.50
Anticipated OG: 1.054 Plato: 13.28
Anticipated EBC: 20.4
Anticipated IBU: 29.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
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43.5 5.00 kg. Weyermann Pilsner Germany 1.038 4
34.8 4.00 kg. Weyermann Vienna Germany 1.038 7
17.4 2.00 kg. Weyermann Munich II Germany 1.038 26
3.5 0.40 kg. Weyermann Carabohemien Germany 1.034 200
0.9 0.10 kg. Weyermann Caraaroma Germany 1.034 350

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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140.00 g. Saphire Pellet 4.50 28.1 40 min.
40.00 g. Saphire Pellet 4.50 1.8 5 min.


Yeast
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Wyeast 2487 Hella-Bock (WLP833)
 

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