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practicalfool said:
- do sex changed people prefer trans-sexual or trans-gender as a term? I mean, the whole acronym GLBTYP (or something like that) doesn't quite explain it.
The ones I have met are just happy being called by there first name....
 
So you are saying that 'these people' aren't english. These variables do not make your ethnicity. Is a white english person whose religion is islam not also pom. point is you do not have to be white anglo blah blah blah to be considered a pom. Again its all the thin edge of the wedge, but an important concept to protect/argue for etc.
 
Elz said:
So you are saying that 'these people' aren't english.
No, I'm saying that the whinging Pom trope applies to a narrow range of English people. Generally not the black and/or Muslim ones. In the same way that the laconic but dumb Aussie trope doesn't apply to Australians of Vietnamese ethnicity. They're no less Australian, just not part of that particular stereotype.

Also, you realise that ethnicity and nationality are not always the same thing, right? Most English Muslims are not ethnically "English".
 
bites tongue.. Time ...to...move...on... .last post on this subject, honestly! So your ethnicity is bound by your religion? News to me, i thought it is how person associates their individual ethnicity and how it relates to there nationality. Not bound by religion. Is Tony Abbott a Catholic or an Aussie? I pretty sure most would say Aussie ( maybe other adjectives also come to mind) Enjoy your night, nearly half way through the bottle of Turkey!!!
Cheers all
Elz
 
Elz said:
. Is Tony Abbott a Catholic or an Aussie? I pretty sure most would say Aussie ( maybe other adjectives also come to mind)
Yeah.....you could take " CaTholic or aN aUssie"........and work out what he is.......just saying....

Dont want to upset his fan club, small as it may be....someone likes him
 
Prince Imperial said:
But those variables you refer to (Muslim, black, Irish) are further examples of structural disadvantage, so it has everything to do with it . The "whinging Pom" stereotype applies to Anglo-Saxon Protestant Englishmen. I can see how someone in that demographic might be offended by it, but I'll reserve my sympathy for victims if racism for whom the impact is more than hurt feelings. Like Mike Brown.
Was just about to get really offended, but remembered I'm an atheist. Phew
 
If you're going to bite your tongue, then bite it. If you're going to keep talking ****, then don't pretend you're not. Ethnicity, nationality and religion are three separate things. Tony Abbott is both Australian, Catholic and ethnically Anglo/Celtic/Saxon (unsure exactly). I reckon the half a bottle of turkey hasn't done your powers of logic/reasoning any favours mate. I'd drink the rest slowly.
 
The great thing about religion is there are so many to choose from.....and you can switch when ever you like.......bit harder with skin colour thought...
 
Having visions of him leaping overboard & swimming the last few hundred meters, then talking to the press in budgie-smugglers & a life-savers cap.
 
That was fun.

Seriously ***** me that anyone could equate calling anyone a whinging Pom with racism. I lose nothing when it's said to me, and it changes nothing. It doesn't even denote that the person saying it has anything less than respect. It's completely harmless, and certainly does not denote that the speaker considers themselves superior to me which in my book is the threshold for something to be racist (or any other ist)

And anyway, my iPad's predictive spelling keeps changing whinging Pom to whoring Pom. Which is nice.
 
Prince Imperial said:
Having visions of him leaping overboard & swimming the last few hundred meters, then talking to the press in budgie-smugglers & a life-savers cap.
Does your work offer free counselling for this sort of ****?
 
Prob cost an extra $7 to see a doctor to get a referal to a shrink....
 
Elz said:
some of the comments stated by others, on this forum would get me sacked from a position where I am employed in a public health position. Do these narrowed views trouble me, hell yes. However, free speech is great, as is the individuals point of view (along with piss taking) Bring it on... ... This subtle racist ***** pisses me off. And bradshaw what is the point of your comment, posting a comment as a question is a fairly weak point of view, are all mods this meek?
" some of the comments sated by others,on this forum.."
Yes it is a forum ,a public forum ,the same as any form of speech in public if you are offended or take offence then walk away .
Have others here had an issue with what I have posted ,yep.
Have I had any issue with what others have posted,yep
Ahh the joys of being a willing participant of a public forum,any public forum,but I am not married to any of them so at the end of the day I cease giving a ****!
As for subtle racist *****,**** that as well ,I worked with a black fella years back,he drove an orange car and I told him he looked like a Jaffa in it,he told me to get ****** and called me a white Captian Cook **** .
Give and take is what life is all about,accept it and get on with it....life that is.
 
Gotta love this public forum ****,this topic started as a **** Tassie thread and has gone onto a **** everybody and everything thread.

Any way I'm going to sleep now,night night ya bunch of whinging racist drunken ******s :).
 
spog said:
Ahh the joys of being a willing participant of a public forum,any public forum,but I am not married to any of them so at the end of the day I cease giving a ****!
Hearing you there brother.....If those I upset think I give a **** when I log off..well....good luck to them....
 
spog said:
Gotta love this public forum ****,this topic started as a **** Tassie thread and has gone onto a **** everybody and everything thread.
tis a beautiful thing
 
Elz said:
Hey jim, its not about you. Humans, any humans and all people are to be treated with respect. Chipping away at human rights because you know the person is still unacceptable. I have had a beer with my best mate who happens to be gay, does that give me the right to call all gay people a pejorative name ok, i dont think so. Anyway probably time to move on, had my say, stated my point and here for learning about beer (stating my political bias is actually a bonus).
Heres to all things good in Tassie including their craft beer and sustainable forestry.
Cheers
Elz

Elz said:
Thanks for the advice praticalfool, but i am 100 percent at ease with my attitude. Served me well so far and unwilling to change because it upsets some. Respect for humanity is something i am unwilling to steer away from.
Really? All humans? I know political correctness and all that "please don't sue me" **** is in vogue right now but saying all humans deserve respect is a ******* crock, I am tempted to Godwin* this thread but I'm enjoying the more reasonable posts and hoping it continues for a while, though I suspect you've already killed it with this ****.

Prince Imperial said:
There's nothing sadder than a self-hating boat person.
Haha, yeah, my old man rocked up by boat in the 70s, 40 years later he's calling for the boats to be sunk, he's a whinging bloody pom too though.

*For those unsure of the Godwin reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
 
Meanwhile, in Tasmania far, far away, a craft brewer tries to make a difference (and a long lost thread is dragged back on topic) ...

Scottsdale: a Tasmanian town in the throes of change


As Tasmania’s first Liberal state budget in 16 years is handed down, nationwide questions of regional revival are brought into sharp focus for one small town


It’s 9am and George Gray is loading a pipe from his tobacco pouch outside JoDonny’s café in Scottsdale, the heart of the Dorset region in north-east Tasmania. The retired farmer and widower from Western Australia packed up his life and moved here a month ago. He loves his new views of rolling green hills with their distinctive chocolate paddocks, described as the best soil on the island by James Scott, first surveyor of the town in 1855.

Gray is fitting in nicely here with his flannelette shirt, peaked cap and English accent, breakfasting in town every morning. Tonight he’ll dine around the corner at Kendall’s Hotel.

Just up the road, it’s “brew day” for Chris Carins at Little Rivers Brewing Company, the north-east’s first microbrewery, housed in an old shed that used to sell farm machinery. Out the back amid the smell of hops, steam is rising from a vat that Carins designed himself to save on startup costs. Eventually the shop front will be transformed into a cellar door. Carins says it will attract the caravans going past the front door.

He’s a local lad who moved back from Queensland where he went to work as a brewer for the Burleigh brewing company. He says he was homesick, wanted to start a family with his wife, Jess, and couldn’t think of a better place to do it than home. The couple’s son arrived 16 months ago. And they sold their first beer in February...

More at: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/31/sp-scottsdale-tasmania-regional-revitalisation
 
Awesome story Feldon...until Boag's masters decide they don't like losing even this relatively miniscule amount of market share and offfer him more money than he can say no to to buy him out. Having said that, it's lovely to see a young bloke setting a goal (I detest that friggin' overused word DREAM) and making it work. Good luck to him, souds like he's got a good head around what he's doing.
 
Well I was doing my bit yesterday, hard at it.

Tree On!

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