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Enigma

Discussion in 'Hop Descriptions' started by Niksko, 28/7/13.

 

  1. Niksko

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    Posted 28/7/13
    MOD: Above post entered by Lord Raja Goomba I. Original Member's post is below:

    Anybody know anything about this variety? It's mentioned here, right at the bottom of the report.
     
  2. Feldon

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    Posted 28/7/13
    No, sorry, Enigma hops is new to me.

    (OT. But possibly developed by Winston Churchill - a hybrid of Mystery and Riddle hops).
     
  3. nate2g

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    Posted 18/12/13
    Bump.

    I have kilos of Enigma and can't find much info on the hop. I was wondering if anyone has trialed these recently?
     
  4. Yob

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    Posted 18/12/13
    well if it says it not what you expect it can be taken a few different ways..

    what does it smell like?

    I for one am interested in impressions.. Ive not seen it available here so seems like you are the test bunny my friend.
     
  5. nate2g

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    Posted 18/12/13
    I haven't opened the bag yet tbh, but will give them an analysis closer to brewday in a few weeks. I read of the berry and white wine profile it gives and got me thinking something along the lines of Nelson Sauvin...will keep you posted.
     
  6. Yob

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    Posted 1/1/14
    Anything further yet mate?
     
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    Posted 7/1/14
    Finally got around today and opened the bag to assess. Yep extremely Sauvin-esque, without the passionfruit but pungent melon, white grape profile. We're brewing a hoppy wheat with rye and oats next week and I'll most likely use 2kg of Victoria Secret in dry hop as well to bring in that piney/minty/woody edge. Excited to use these. Will keep you posted how it turns out.

    Here's the specs of the Enigma from HPA https://twitter.com/naterooz/status/413040462232973312/photo/1/large
     
  8. of mice and gods

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    Posted 7/1/14
    2 kilos dry hop? What size batches are you doing mate?
     
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    Posted 7/1/14
    Holy hell... 2kg dry hop?!
     
  10. nate2g

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    Posted 7/1/14
    Sorry, this is for a commercial batch - 13hL.
     
  11. Not For Horses

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    Posted 13/2/14
    I've had a beer with this hop.
    Its only a new variety that a few brewers have been testing for HPA.
    Van Dieman Brewing did a house pale ale for a local pub here in Tas (Rosevears Tavern)
    I'd say its pretty similar to Galaxy really but maybe a bit more citrusy.
    I liked it but it wasn't really ground breaking flavour wise.

    How did you find it nate2g?
     
  12. Alex.Tas

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    Posted 11/8/14
    I had a single hop beer made by a member of the Hobart Brewers at our recent pale ale comp, I'm not too sure of his username on AHB. My impression was almost entirely pineapple. Some astringency perhaps form the early addition but it smelt incredible in my opinion.
     
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    Posted 11/8/14
    Hmm, may have to get some and give them a bash, got a brewday planned in a few weeks time so I'm sure I can dose a cube up, sounds like chinook would go well to balance it out
     
  14. Alex.Tas

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    Posted 11/8/14
    yeah you are probably right. I just made up an "atlantic IPA" - UK malt and (mostly) US hop IPA with the remainder of my Enigma in as a dry hop addition. its competing against a similar quantity of Citra but hopefully may bring something to the table.

    I used it as a 60 (actually 40 min boil because i nochilled it) min addition in a US pale (with Chinook later in the boil) and it tastes pretty good in my opinion so far. Its still a little under carbed so cant comment with certainty. i think it was only a ~10g addition due to its high AA% and not likely to contribute much flavor or aroma due to its addition time. Time and repeated experiments will tell if its okay early on in the boil.
     
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    Posted 12/8/14
    I'm planning a Dr Smurtos Golden Ale with Enigma instead of Amarillo.

    Enigma is 15.2% AA so hopping with 0.5g/L at 60, 10 and 5 then dry hopping 1.5g/L and no chilling. Beer Smith says 43 IBU, will be interesting to see.
     
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    Posted 12/8/14
    have a chat with Duncan on the threadable for hobart brewers Glen, he should be able to give you some advise as his pale ale was all Enigma.
     
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    Posted 12/8/14
    Just looked up his BeerSmith sheet
    87% Perle malt
    13% flaked oats

    0.5 g/L @60 min boil
    2 g/L @5 min boil
    2 g/L @ whirlpool
    4 g/L dry hop

    allegedly 35 IBU

    I'm still mulling this one over.
     
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    Posted 22/10/14
    Has anyone else had a play with Enigma? I scored a small quantity thanks to ANHC, and keen to give it a go.

    Any updates on the flavour profile? Any known complementary hops? Good for dry hopping?

    I'll probably just make an all-Enigma APA with what I've got, but it would be great to hear how others have used it. Sounds like an interesting hop (Australia's answer to Mosaic?)
     
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    I've now brewed two single hop beers using Enigma. The pale is mentioned above and more recently a saison where i used it in place of Nelson Sauvin. Hopping of the saison was along the lines of the pale.

    I see where people get the "white wine" notes from but i find this descriptor a too "marketing" based. For me it brings a fair bit of fruity flavours with it along the lines of passionfruit or grapefruit. There are definitely some berry notes but stronger than Mosaic (also brewed a single hop). I've also found that it does bring a little dankness in the quantities that i've used and therefore if i were to use it again, i would definitely tone down the quantities. It seems like less is more to me with this hop.

    MCHammo, if you do brew with it, let me know how you think it compares to Mosaic as it seems you've got more experience with this hop.
     
  20. DJ_L3ThAL

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    I was at Bridge Road Brewers on the weekend and they have a new world Pilsner done with Enigma at 4% ABV(http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CAwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ratebeer.com%2Fbeer%2Fbridge-road-enigma%2F267514%2F&ei=3rBNVPuRGue7mAWF7YDgDA&usg=AFQjCNF6oXQPzRgCpuYOnmzDAynVkUj-9g&sig2=vIlGx_KTHdtvj7AYL6BfSw) and would have had to be the most enjoyable session able beer I think I've ever tasted! Very interesting flavours, very subtle so I think Bil hit the nail on the head above with less is more! I'm keen to get my hands on some as it would be the perfect hop for a house PA or to compliment a Saison, so interested in your findings above fellas :)
     
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