Electric Element Kettle

[haysie]

Being convinced from experience, over the side immersion heaters are great for a mash out, an aid for boiling wort, BUT. are not designed for hanging up in 90 minute boils.
What is a proven easyfit 2000+ element folk?
This one looks good but ?...... its the only one.
http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/product_in...roducts_id=8272

Keggle type vessel I am retrofitting. Separate 10amp supply.
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[elec]

Why is that? My pair of 2400w Stokes elements seem to work OK....



Regards

 

[haysie]

Why is that? My pair of 2400w Stokes elements seem to work OK....



Regards

My pair of Grimwoods are useless/dangerous. The moulded fitting cracks hence moisture saynomore.

 

[gruntus]

Same thing happened to me when using in the Mash (broke three in 3 months)....problem solved when stopped using for mash out.

My pair of Grimwoods are useless/dangerous. The moulded fitting cracks hence moisture saynomore.

 

[Cocko]

Sorry Haysie, a little OT but will ask while it is up,

I am about to buy an over the side immersion heater to heat strike and mash out water and help to bring wort to boil..

So you have answered my first Q: Are they safe to use in wort to help bring to boil... Using 4 ring as well and that will maintain boil... Just use immersion to get the be'arch up and turning!

Next Q: Can you just stir your mash with it to bring to mash out temp or do they 'burn' your grain/mash?

Sorry, may be stupid question but just thinking about it...

Cheers

 

[haysie]

Sorry Haysie, a little OT but will ask while it is up,

I am about to buy an over the side immersion heater to heat strike and mash out water and help to bring wort to boil..

So you have answered my first Q: Are they safe to use in wort to help bring to boil... Using 4 ring as well and that will maintain boil... Just use immersion to get the be'arch up and turning!

Next Q: Can you just stir your mash with it to bring to mash out temp or do they 'burn' your grain/mash?

Sorry, may be stupid question but just thinking about it...

Cheers

Hi Cocko,
Mine have always been safe to use whilst complimenting another source, i.e gas. My troubles started when I used solely the immersion, things get too hot for it albeit its a sealed moulded unit. They will not burn scorch your grain, keep it moving moving, let it sit then it will burn.

Using a 4ring you should not need an additional source, what type of reg are you running?

edit, wow that was said with a mouthfull of marbles and the latest BPA, edited.

 

[gruntus]

... keep it moving moving, dont let it sit then it will burn....

The grimwood elements (and other brands) are not designed to be moved (e.g. in the mash).....it is this movement that will break the rubber/plastic coating.

 

[Cocko]

Hi Cocko,
Mine have always been safe to use whilst complimenting another source, i.e gas. My troubles started when I used solely the immersion, things get too hot for it albeit its a sealed moulded unit. They will not burn scorch your grain, keep it moving moving, dont let it sit then it will burn it.

Using a 4ring you should not need an additional source, what type of reg are you running?

Cheers Haysie,

Medium pressure - adjustable BB type.

Going to buy the G&G Immersion Heater, as said, to use in my HLT to get strike water ready, I also see it as a benefit for the reason [especially in the first few batches] if my tun absorbs more temp than predicted the I can wave it round in my tun to get back up to strike temp.

So then, yep into kettle, fire up my 4 ring with med. pressure reg. and drop in the immersion heater in to get up to boil quicker, once boiling just use the 4 ring... sound right?

Sorry for the OT but appreciate it!

 

[haysie]

The grimwood elements (and other brands) are not designed to be moved (e.g. in the mash).....it is this movement that will break the rubber/plastic coating.

Bollucks, what brands are designed to be moved in the mash? I have a flea market no namer that only requires rewiring once every 2 brews, does this count?

 

[gruntus]

Bollucks, what brands are designed to be moved in the mash? I have a flea market no namer that only requires rewiring once every 2 brews, does this count?

What brands are designed to be moved?.....None.

After destroying 3 in the space of 3 months I decided to ring Grimwood.....they were amazed that I was even attempting to hold these (let alone stir) whilst turned on.

They insisted that they are designed to be hung over the side in a static (non-motion) environment.

 

[raven19]

Mine have always been safe to use whilst complimenting another source, i.e gas. My troubles started when I used solely the immersion, things get too hot for it albeit its a sealed moulded unit. They will not burn scorch your grain, keep it moving moving, let it sit then it will burn.

I used my immersion element to help step up a mash for a wheat beer.

Initially it worked ok, I kept moving it through the mash, however grains became stuck between the rings in the element - as such some burnt grains resulted.

This resulted in a smokey aftertaste in the wheat beer. Not terrible, but not great either.

I would recommend some kind of metal mesh sleeve to put over the element so liquid but not grains will touch the element.

Just my experiences in using the immersion element in the MT.

 

[yardy]

What is a proven easyfit 2000+ element folk?

This one looks good but ?...... its the only one.

http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/product_in...roducts_id=8272

Keggle type vessel I am retrofitting. Separate 10amp supply.
.

timely topic Haysie

really interested in some pics showing a fit up of the G&G element that's mentioned above or maybe a link to some in the Gallery B)

Cheers

Yard

 

[Maple]

timely topic Haysie

really interested in some pics showing a fit up of the G&G element that's mentioned above or maybe a link to some in the Gallery B)

Cheers

Yard

Yardy, This is the exact element I have mounted in my HLT (50L SS kettle) and pretty sure I have a pic of it at home. i'll try and remember to post it up tonight.

 

[MVZOOM]

I have done all my brewing with a Tobin 2400w Immersion. AG'ing now for 3 years, many, many batches - sole source of heat. I double batch in an 80L ketttle now, and want to get another one to get to the boil more quickly.

They are great - I can't believe how cheap they are and the cost diff between electricity and gas.

 

[egolds77]

This is a G&G element installed into a keg. Simple to do. Cut a hole to fit socket and tighten. Works great.






I have installed a element from a $19 Target kettle into my HERMS HEX. It's a bit of work to remove the element but nothing a screw driver and hacksaw can't fix. If you have a spare 3 point power lead, computer type this can be a much cheaper option and you get a cool LED light indicating when it's on too. A power cord from Dick Smiths is about $14.
The wall thickness of the HEX pot was much thinner than the plastic of the kettle so I had to cut the piece of plastic out of the kettle that the element fitted through and mount the element in that as well to bulk out the wall thickness so it would seal properly. You may be able to see some white plastic between the outside of the pot and the black plastic fitting of the element.





Hope this helps
:beer:

 

[Fents]

Cocko - with a 4 ring burner and a med adj pressure reg you will not need an over the side immersion element to bring to boil. most people just fire up the gas when you start draining your sparge and by the time your finished sparging it will be close to boil, trust me.

Also that esky of yours will NOT loose temp over 1 hour or even 90mins. If the immersion is to bring the mash up to mash out temp (cant see why you arnt using hot water to do this but anywways) then fair enough.

Only place i would have an immersion is to heat up a HLT.

 

[Cortez The Killer]

Have been using my 4108B immersion elements for heating strike water and boiling and the occasional stir of the mash without issue

Read some where that the plastic connector thingy was redesigned to prevent issues with cracking / coming loose

Cheers

 

[haysie]

timely topic Haysie

really interested in some pics showing a fit up of the G&G element that's mentioned above or maybe a link to some in the Gallery B)

Cheers

Yard

Keen to get this job done and dusted.
Ordered that above mentioned part from G&G today. I`ll post up (gallery) the results.

Elton, that photo (3rd) :blink: bucketofdeath

Cocko, an immersion is nearly a must in any home brewery, so many uses, Fents covered pretty much the 4 ring with adjust reg, you shouldnt need it for that purpose of your brewing.

 

[egolds77]

Keen to get this job done and dusted.
Ordered that above mentioned part from G&G today. I`ll post up (gallery) the results.

Elton, that photo (3rd) :blink: bucketofdeath

Cocko, an immersion is nearly a must in any home brewery, so many uses, Fents covered pretty much the 4 ring with adjust reg, you shouldnt need it for that purpose of your brewing.

Isn't that why we have safety switches in the circuit breaker box outside. . . . just kidding

The system isn't in use yet, bits and pieces are built and functionally tested. I'm waiting on a pump, chiller and plumbing and i'll be brewing.

I will get an enclosure around that plug though.

:icon_chickcheers:

 

[haysie]

timely topic Haysie

really interested in some pics showing a fit up of the G&G element that's mentioned above or maybe a link to some in the Gallery B)

Cheers

Yard

Fitted the element y`day morning. Very simple.
Tools and materials required were 32mm hole saw, a punch and some sand paper.
Procedure was, determine placement of the element, for mine it was the rear of the kettle simply for access to power.

1/ Mark and punch centre of hole
2/ Drill slowly I used #1 speed on my 18 volt cordless, dont drill fast/blunt your drills.
3/ Cleanup hole with some sandpaper
4/ Work the thread of the element thru the hole being careful not to damage the thread (it appears quite soft) screw on the aluminium nut nice n tight.

At the time of order G&G didnt have power cords in stock, I made my own with a computer cable and made a groove with a stanley knife.

Boiled up some water too clean some kegs this morning. Its a ripper!