Dunkelweizen Recipe

[petesbrew]

Making this for my daughter's 5th b'day later this year.
Any comments & input welcome on the recipe.

Lily's Geburtstag Dunkelweizen
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General
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Category: German Wheat and Rye Beer
Subcategory: Dunkelweizen
Recipe Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 24 liters
Volume Boiled: 33 liters
Mash Efficiency: 72 %
Total Grain/Extract: 5.91 kg.
Total Hops: 30.0 g.
Calories (12 fl. oz.): 205.1
Cost to Brew: $41.35 (USD)
Cost per Bottle (12 fl. oz.): $0.61 (USD)

Ingredients
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1 kg. Australian Pilsner
3.2 kg. Malt Craft Wheat Malt
1.3 kg. Light Munich Malt
.35 kg. Belgian Special B
.057 kg. Weyermann Carafa Special TYPE III
15 g. Hallertau (Pellets, 8 %AA) boiled 60 minutes.
15 g. Hallertau (Pellets, 8 %AA) boiled 1 minutes.
Yeast: WYeast 3068 Weihenstephan Weizen

Notes
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Vital Statistics
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Original Gravity: 1.052
Terminal Gravity: 1.012
Color: 19.48 SRM
Bitterness: 17.5 IBU
Alcohol (%volume): 5.2 %

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[Lord Raja Goomba I]

You're training her early....

 

[petesbrew]

You're training her early....

She & her brother enjoy measuring (and eating) the grain, Goomba!

 

[mika]

I've not used Special B so much, but 350g seems to be a fair amount. I'm not sure you're going to get a real nice colour with that combo, but can't think how to add to it without throwing in crystal which would be a no-no.
Otherwise should be a good drop.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

She & her brother enjoy measuring (and eating) the grain, Goomba!

Has she developed a taste for the beer as well?

My 3 girls would end up brawling and knocking over the brew.

Goomba

 

[argon]

I've not used Special B so much, but 350g seems to be a fair amount. I'm not sure you're going to get a real nice colour with that combo, but can't think how to add to it without throwing in crystal which would be a no-no.
Otherwise should be a good drop.

350g is only about 5%... Special B is a crystal and is good up to 10%. I have a brown Ale that's 90% Ale + 10% SpecB.... beautiful :icon_drool2:

 

[davewaldo]

I have read that using dark wheat as the main wheat component is a good idea. I think it was Tony on this forum that says it gives the correct flavour. I've brewed a Dunkelweizen this way and it was lovely, colour was spot on too.

My recipe was (based on Tony's):

Wheat Malt Dark - Weyermann 3.420 kg 60.3 %
Pilsner Bohemium - Weyerman 1.890 kg 33.3 %
Carawheat - Weyermann 0.162 kg 2.9 %
Caramunich II - Weyermann 0.100 kg 1.8 %
Carafa Special II - Weyermann 0.100 kg 1.8 %
Wyeast 3068


I think it might have been a little too sweet so maybe lessen the crystal malts.

Cheers,

Dave.

 

[C_west]

Yea the Dark wheat works well, I did one last year that was around 30% Wheat, 40% dark wheat and I think 30% Munich?

Turned out nicely and the colour was spot on, Dont brew it too far in advance though, I found the beer peaked after only a few weeks and lost its edge after a few months (I bottled)

 

[petesbrew]

Yea the Dark wheat works well, I did one last year that was around 30% Wheat, 40% dark wheat and I think 30% Munich?

Turned out nicely and the colour was spot on, Dont brew it too far in advance though, I found the beer peaked after only a few weeks and lost its edge after a few months (I bottled)

Cheers for the input guys. The beer is planned to be drinkable in August, so I've got plenty of time for finetuning. Might have to get my hands on some Dark Wheat too.

 

[petesbrew]

Lily's Dunkelweizen

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 23.00 Wort Size (L): 23.00
Total Grain (kg): 6.11
Anticipated OG: 1.057 Plato: 14.095
Anticipated EBC: 33.8
Anticipated IBU: 20.8
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
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16.4 1.00 kg. Pilsner Australia 1.037 3
52.4 3.20 kg. JWM Wheat Malt Australia 1.040 4
24.6 1.50 kg. JWM Light Munich Australia 1.039 13
0.9 0.06 kg. Weyermann Carafa Special III Germany 1.035 1300
5.7 0.35 kg. Special B Malt Belgian 1.030 236

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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18.00 g. Hallertau Hersbrucker Pellet 8.00 20.8 60 min.


Yeast
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WYeast 3068 Weihenstephan Weizen


Brewed this up today. A lightbulb went off in my head and I've split the batch between the Wyeast and WLP838 Sth German Lager.
Gravity was spot on at 1058.

 

[Tony]

Yep dark wheat is the go....... 60 to 70% dark wheat, the rest pilsner malt and enough Carafa Spec 2 or choc wheat to get the colour you desire. all weyermann malts

I have stopped using any crystal type malts...... it should be simple beer!

cheers

 

[petesbrew]

Yep dark wheat is the go....... 60 to 70% dark wheat, the rest pilsner malt and enough Carafa Spec 2 or choc wheat to get the colour you desire. all weyermann malts

I have stopped using any crystal type malts...... it should be simple beer!

cheers

I'll hunt down the dark wheat for my next one. Cheers!
Pitched the yeasts this morning. The one in my fridge is in a cube, with a blowoff tube in the lid.
It's not ideal, but it fits neatly in the bottom without having to raise it past the compressor.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

Mash Temp?

 

[petesbrew]

Mash Temp?

uh, good question. I may have written it down at home... probably around 64.
Mashed it for about 2hrs. Very slow sparge. Only did a 60min boil.

 

[Wolfy]

Mash Temp?

It's German so a decoction mash of course ... will bring out the malty flavours.
More seriously, JZ's book suggests mashing at 67.

 

[petesbrew]

It's German so a decoction mash of course ... will bring out the malty flavours.
More seriously, JZ's book suggests mashing at 67.

I've only got a simple setup at the moment, and i haven't got my head around the decoction mashes yet.
In future.

 

[TidalPete]

Have a go at this one next time if you're keen petesbrew. Nice & dry & not to bad at all.
Mellowing in my old age as I don't usually display my recipes.
Don't forget it's a double batch of 44 litres. 5.4% ABV @ 85% eff.

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: 0133\Dark Rider
Brewer: Pete
Asst Brewer:
Style: Dunkelweizen
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
5.62 kg Wheat Malt, Dark (Weyermann) (13.8 EBC) Grain 2 63.1 %
2.36 kg Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 3 26.6 %
0.74 kg Carawheat (Weyermann) (98.5 EBC) Grain 4 8.3 %
0.18 kg Chocolate Wheat (Weyermann) (817.6 EBC) Grain 5 2.0 %
64.00 g Saaz [3.70 %] - First Wort 90.0 min Hop 7 17.7 IBUs
42.00 g Saaz [3.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 2.0 IBUs
0.10 Items Sodium Metabisulphate (Mash 90.0 mins) Other 6 -
1.91 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 90.0 mins) Water Agent 1 -
1.91 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 15.0 mins) Other 8 -
2.0 pkg Weihenstephan Weizen (Wyeast Labs #3068) Yeast 10 -


TP

View attachment Dark_Rider.txt

 

[petesbrew]

Thankyou very much Tidal... I don't even have to change the brewer name in the recipe!

Brewed this one while sick (tonsilitis) and I tell you, it's not fun. Brewing should be enjoyable, but my heart & mind wasn't into it. I didn't even get all excited over the smell of the boiling wort.
Hydrometer tasting was pretty nice in the end, if a tad underbittered (to my tastebuds). I'm hoping the hops I used weren't too old.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

Sweet, thanks for the advice all.

Roggenwei is hopefully the 2nd next (I've got a repeat APA to do first), if I'm lucky I'll do both this weekend.

Goomba

 

[petesbrew]

Sweet, thanks for the advice all.

Roggenwei is hopefully the 2nd next (I've got a repeat APA to do first), if I'm lucky I'll do both this weekend.

Goomba

Good luck with the Roggenweisse, Goomba (CBA looking for the funny german B symbol).
This one was saved for a double brewday with an APA also... I wouldn't have survived the day.