DFH 90 Min IPA clone

[poggor]

All the talk on the other thread about 120min IPA made me remember the 90- I had a few bottles of this in america and have also had it a few times from Acland Cellars in St Kilda. It's a cracker of a beer.

Anyway, I'm trying to put together a recipe- I searched AHB forums but there's not much. Searched some US forums and have come up with this as a starting point. Any suggestion?

Recipe Overview Wort Volume Before Boil: 28.00 l
Wort Volume After Boil: 25.00 l
Volume Transferred: 25.00 l
Water Added To Fermenter: 0.00 l
Volume At Pitching: 25.00 l
Volume Of Finished Beer: 25.00 l
Expected Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.077 SG
Expected OG: 1.087 SG
Expected FG: 1.020 SG
Apparent Attenuation: 75.0 %
Expected ABV: 8.9 %
Expected ABW: 6.9 %
Expected IBU (using Tinseth): 91.3 IBU
Expected Color (using Morey): 8.6 SRM
BU:GU ratio: 1.06
Approx Color: Mash Efficiency: 70.0 % Boil Duration: 90.0 mins Fermentation Temperature: 18 degC

Fermentables Ingredient Amount % MCU When
US 2-Row Malt 9.000 kg 90.0 % 5.4 In Mash/Steeped
Australian Amber Malt 1.000 kg 10.0 % 7.3 In Mash/Steeped

Hops Variety Alpha Amount IBU Form When
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.2 Loose Pellet Hops 90 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.4 Loose Pellet Hops 90 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 5.3 Loose Pellet Hops 90 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.2 Loose Pellet Hops 80 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.4 Loose Pellet Hops 80 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 5.2 Loose Pellet Hops 80 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.1 Loose Pellet Hops 70 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.3 Loose Pellet Hops 70 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 5.1 Loose Pellet Hops 70 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.0 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.1 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 4.9 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 3.8 Loose Pellet Hops 50 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 3.9 Loose Pellet Hops 50 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 4.7 Loose Pellet Hops 50 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 3.5 Loose Pellet Hops 40 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 3.6 Loose Pellet Hops 40 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 4.3 Loose Pellet Hops 40 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 2.4 Loose Pellet Hops 30 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 1.6 Loose Pellet Hops 30 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 1.9 Loose Pellet Hops 30 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 1.9 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 1.3 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 1.5 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 1.2 Loose Pellet Hops 10 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 0.7 Loose Pellet Hops 10 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 0.9 Loose Pellet Hops 10 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
US Amarillo 5.0 % 56 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped
US Simcoe 13.0 % 56 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped

Other Ingredients Ingredient Amount When

Yeast
White Labs WLP007-Dry English Ale

 

[barabool]

good luck

 

[poggor]

good luck?! any thoughts?
I think i might just make an SNPA clone instead.

 

[Adr_0]

Mate that looks fantastic. I have never had the pleasure but that is a great hop combo. That is also a good malt base... Good to see there is no crystal in there.

Which yeast, 1272, US-05 or BRY-97?

 

[barabool]

Yeast
White Labs WLP007-Dry English Ale

Interesting choice in itself - looking for something in particular?
Not familiar with this yeast.

Also why no Warrior Dry Hop?

 

[poggor]

They apparently use and english ale yeast. hence my choice of white labs 007

 

[Adr_0]

As long as it attenuates well...

 

[pat86]

Keen to hear of you get the balance right. I loved that beer, it tasted like I was drinking a 5% pale ale, albeit pretty hoppy...

 

[Kshadlow23]

Looks good what temp do you mash at?

 

[poggor]

Im going to be making a small test batch of this in the coming weeks. I haven't quite settled on mash temp yet but I suspect I will do a simple 1 step mash at 68c and mashout at 77.
Would anyone add some sulphate to this?

cheers


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[acarey]

Brewman has a clone recipe in brewbuilder which I have done and its freaking great. I think it came from BYO magazine so you can probably find it on their website. The dogfishhead man hims self, sam calagione gave it to BYO....

 

[suchidog]

90-Minute IPA clone
(Dogfish Head)
(5 gallons/19 L, all-grain)
OG = 1.088 FG = 1.021
IBU = 90 SRM = 13 ABV = 8.7%
Ingredients
16.5 lbs. (7.5 kg) Pilsner malt
1.66 lbs. (0.75 kg) amber malt (35 °L)
16 AAU Amarillo hops (90–0 mins)
(2.0 oz./57 g of 8.0% alpha acids)
8.0 AAU Simcoe hops (90–0 mins)
(0.62 oz./17 g of 13% alpha acids)
8.0 AAU Warrior hops (90–0 mins)
(0.53 oz./15 g of 15% alpha acids)
1 oz. (28 g) Amarillo hops (dry hops)
0.5 oz (14 g) Simcoe hops (dry hops)
0.5 oz. (14 g) Warrior hops (dry hops)
1 tsp. Irish moss (15 mins)
Wyeast 1099 (Whitbread Ale) yeast
0.75 cups corn sugar (for priming)

Step by Step
Mash in at 122 °F (50 °C), then raise the temperature to 149 °F (65 °C) until conversion is complete. Mash out to 170 °F (77 °C). Boil the wort for 105 minutes. Starting with 90 minutes left in the boil, begin slowly and evenly adding hops to the kettle. (This works out to a little over 0.25 oz. (7 g) of hops every 7.5 minutes.) Start fermentation at 71 °F (22 °C) and let raise to 74 °F (23 °C). Dry hop in secondary at 71 °F for 3–5 days, then cool to 32 °F (0 °C).

Extract option:
Replace Pilsner malt with 8.0 lbs. (3.6 kg) dried malt extract and 1.75 lbs. (0.79 kg) of Pilsner malt. Steep crushed grains in 1.1 gallons(4 L) of water at 150 °F (66 °C) for 45 minutes. Follow the remaining instructions in the all-grain recipe.
Thanks to Sam Calagione and Andy Tveekrem of Dogfish Head for their help in constructing this clone.

https://byo.com/stories/issue/item/153-attack-of-the-hop-clones

 

[poggor]

Thanks for that! looks great! I'll adjust my recipe a little...

 

[JB]

US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.2 Loose Pellet Hops 90 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.4 Loose Pellet Hops 90 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 5.3 Loose Pellet Hops 90 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.2 Loose Pellet Hops 80 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.4 Loose Pellet Hops 80 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 5.2 Loose Pellet Hops 80 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.1 Loose Pellet Hops 70 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.3 Loose Pellet Hops 70 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 5.1 Loose Pellet Hops 70 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 4.0 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 4.1 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 4.9 Loose Pellet Hops 60 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 3.8 Loose Pellet Hops 50 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 3.9 Loose Pellet Hops 50 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 4.7 Loose Pellet Hops 50 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 10 g 3.5 Loose Pellet Hops 40 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 4 g 3.6 Loose Pellet Hops 40 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 4 g 4.3 Loose Pellet Hops 40 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 2.4 Loose Pellet Hops 30 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 1.6 Loose Pellet Hops 30 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 1.9 Loose Pellet Hops 30 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 1.9 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 1.3 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 1.5 Loose Pellet Hops 20 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 1.2 Loose Pellet Hops 10 Min From End
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 0.7 Loose Pellet Hops 10 Min From End
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 0.9 Loose Pellet Hops 10 Min From End
US Amarillo 5.0 % 8 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
US Simcoe 13.0 % 2 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
US Warrior 15.5 % 2 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops At turn off
US Amarillo 5.0 % 56 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped
US Simcoe 13.0 % 56 g 0.0 Loose Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped

Holy crap balls that's a lotsa hop additions! 11!

Have only used warrior as a bittering hop - be interesting to hear the results

 

[jefin]

Hi Poggor

Suggest you use Thomas Fawcett Amber Malt (You can grab it from Ross @ craftbrewer), apparently this is what they use at Dog Fish. Also use an English Ale yeast as suggested above.

Have fun brewing it and let us know how it turn's out, I f'n love that beer!!

Cheers Jefin