Chinese Hops? What Next

[Katherine]

depends on what brews y9ou make. as Maple pointed out he's just dropped almost 1/2kg into a brew. that adds up. IPAs using 100-200g of hops. etc.

besides its worth a try. if they are an inferior product, then no one will use them again.

Except in case swaps

 

[bum]

We bought some new plates for the Restaurant today, on the bottom it says "Australian Fine China" "Made in China" :lol:

Whats Australian about it???? :unsure:

I'd imagine that is where the porcelain (and bone ash if you've spent a few bucks on it) is sourced.

 

[brettprevans]

Except in case swaps

you naughty girl KT! although.... maybe only in interstate case swaps or maybe just with beers we send Chappo!

 

[raven19]

QldKev 2kg MARCO POLO, 2kg CLUSTER, 2kg SAAZ
KillerRx4 - 1kg MARCO POLO, 1kg CLUSTER, 1kg SAAZ
Brads brew -1kg MARCO POLO, 1kg CLUSTER, 1kg SAAZ
AndrewQLD - 1kg Cluster 1 kg Marco Polo
Leigh -1kg MARCO POLO, 1kg CLUSTER, 1kg SAAZ
Ross 5kg each of all 3.
Beer&Kebab 1kg of all 3.
Beersom - 5kg Marco polo, 5kg Saaz
dth - 3kg Saaz
ham2k - 2kg Saaz
Chappo - 5kg each of all 3.
BribieG - 1kg Cluster, 1kg Saaz.
etbandit - 1kg Saaz, 1kg Marco Polo.
Winkle - 1 kg each.
Batz- 2kg each
crozdog - 1kg each
Gruntus - 1kg Saaz, 1kg Marco Polo
L_Bomb - 1kg of each
Altstart 3kg of each
ratchie 1kg of each
rosswill 1 kg of each
OzMick 1 kg of each
Voota 2kg of all three
peas_and_corn 1kg of each
jimmyjack 1 kg of each
BusinessTime 1 kg of each
christmasbender 1kg each please
Phonos 1kg Saaz, 1kg Marco Polo
Pollux 1kg of each.
Marlow_coates 1kg of each.
Jimi 1kg of each
Leiothrix 1kg of each
Maple 1kg of all 3 varieties
Jonnyanchovy 1kg saaz
boddingtons best 1Kg Marco Polo 1Kg Cluster 2Kg Saaz
Duff 1kg Marco Polo 1kg Saaz
Citymorgue2 1kg of all 3 varieties
Darkman 1kg of all varieties
NickB 1kg of each
Steve 1kg of each
Katie 1kg of each
raven19 1kg of each

 

[Katherine]

you naughty girl KT! although.... maybe only in interstate case swaps or maybe just with beers we send Chappo!

Ive got some butter essence at home Ill put in Chappo's beers just so he feels at home!

 

[altone]

good to see everyone keeping their LHBS in business.

Don't know about the rest, but I'd only use them for bittering - except for experimental brews to check and compare the flavor to hops I regularly use.
So I'll be needing to buy aroma hop plugs to go along with them plus all the extra grains etc.
Probably spend more than usual with local suppliers, but at least I won't run out of beer :icon_cheers:

 

[townsville]

OK

Things are moving forward at a great rate of knots

Yes importing into Aus is NOT A PROBLEM

Latest e-mail

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We have been to exporting hops products to Australia before, the paperworks are necessary for you and we are sure to offer full paperworks for clear customs. Well, you have to pick shipment up by yourself or freight forwarder at destination port, please inform us your nearest seaport, your postal address, phone number. It is easy for you to import goods from China by sea, do not worry about it. We would help you. Further, payment should be paid totally in advance due to very small amount. Looking forward to hearing from you soon. Best regards,Carol Wang
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I love the bit "very small amount". Looking at 100kg plus. Me4ans this company must ship a sitload of hops arround the place.

So anyway its looking like all I have to do is pick them up from the local port. Next step is to check if they ship to Townsville. Otherwise its a major city.

If that is the case, then some-one is going to have to do the business there. "willing helpers". Seems pointless shipping to Townsville to just ship back again.

Will keep all informed

Graham L Sanders
http://radio.craftbrewer.org
craftbreweratbeagle.comdotau

 

[brettprevans]

1. top effort Graham (im going to have to call you colonel from now on)
2. love the english in the email. I wonder if they use a translation service?
3. does townsville have a port?
4. if not, then i suggest it makes the most sense to ship it to the major city which has the most buyers and then they can sort.

if its melb, I might do my good deed for the year and volunteer.

 

[SJW]

WTF
WTF
WTF

You guys are going to get me shot. I did not start this thread to be a bulk buy, I just wanted to kick things off about a general discussion/info. **** ME. Thats all I need.
Thats just another kick in the balls for Aussie HB Retailers.
I loved how everyone was bagging the crap out of Chiese hops until they saw the price.
And thats why the country is in the shit. I hope none of u people have family or friends that USED to work at the Bonds factory in Aus.

Steve

 

[Fents]

Easy on steve. Anyone can see you did not start the bulk buy and your names not even on the bulk buy list. I wouldnt worry about it mate.

You'll sleep easy tonight (so will i) knowing we support the retailers and letting them eat steak instead of baked beans for dinner. (ok that was the joke bit over with!)

shop local mate, you know where its at

edit : and before anyone chops my nuts off yes i got my med pressure reg and march pump (which is still sitting in its box) in a bulk buy about a year ago, call my what you will but i still get all my grains, hops and yeast off my LHBS.

 

[townsville]

Thats just another kick in the balls for Aussie HB Retailers.
I loved how everyone was bagging the crap out of Chiese hops until they saw the price.
Steve

Cant help it, the arogant ******* in me is coming out.

This sort of talk is rubbish. I too believe in suporting my local HBS, and local businesses in general.

BUT TO A POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont mind paying appropriate mark-ups for local businesses to survive. Shit I even do it fr free on my radio show. But if I simply find all this out with a few e-mails, and remember its a world economy, and now well communicated I ask one very simple question

"why the hell hasn't all the local shops been importing this stuff for years for us??????"

We wouldn't have to do this if they did, AND they could charge the standard markups and still make money.

I just wish businesses would wake up to
1. Its a world economy
2. We have the Internet

Craftbrewer

 

[HarryB]

The fact that they haven't makes me question the quality of them. But good luck to people using them!

 

[drsmurto]

WTF
WTF
WTF

You guys are going to get me shot. I did not start this thread to be a bulk buy, I just wanted to kick things off about a general discussion/info. **** ME. Thats all I need.
Thats just another kick in the balls for Aussie HB Retailers.
I loved how everyone was bagging the crap out of Chiese hops until they saw the price.
And thats why the country is in the shit. I hope none of u people have family or friends that USED to work at the Bonds factory in Aus.

Steve

Easy on steve. Anyone can see you did not start the bulk buy and your names not even on the bulk buy list. I wouldnt worry about it mate.

You'll sleep easy tonight (so will i) knowing we support the retailers and letting them eat steak instead of baked beans for dinner. (ok that was the joke bit over with!)

shop local mate, you know where its at

edit : and before anyone chops my nuts off yes i got my med pressure reg and march pump (which is still sitting in its box) in a bulk buy about a year ago, call my what you will but i still get all my grains, hops and yeast off my LHBS.

there is a retailer in on this bulk buy...... h34r:

 

[Fents]

h34r:

h34r: h34r:

:lol:

 

[QldKev]

there is a retailer in on this bulk buy...... h34r:

Which is a credit to them, rather than trying to block the buy. To jump in and trial the hops themselves and possibly make them available in smaller amounts long term.

QldKev

 

[Katherine]

Easy on steve. Anyone can see you did not start the bulk buy and your names not even on the bulk buy list. I wouldnt worry about it mate.

You'll sleep easy tonight (so will i) knowing we support the retailers and letting them eat steak instead of baked beans for dinner. (ok that was the joke bit over with!)

shop local mate, you know where its at

edit : and before anyone chops my nuts off yes i got my med pressure reg and march pump (which is still sitting in its box) in a bulk buy about a year ago, call my what you will but i still get all my grains, hops and yeast off my LHBS.

I support two WA retailers! ALOT! and will continue to do so! Ive just placed a large hop order with my favourite retailer!

 

[Batz]

Which is a credit to them, rather than trying to block the buy. QldKev

Give it time, early days yet. <_<

And thats why the country is in the shit. I hope none of u people have family or friends that USED to work at the Bonds factory in Aus.

Have a look on your own shirt and see where that's made, and you pants,undies etc.
I would bet their not an Aussie brand.


Batz

 

[Pollux]

Which is a credit to them, rather than trying to block the buy. To jump in and trial the hops themselves and possibly make them available in smaller amounts long term.

QldKev

Most BBs die out due to retailer's bullying suppliers, threatening to go elsewhere and the supplier is left to make a choice between a once off BB sale or a regular source of income.

Somehow I don't see that occurring this time, and if it does well then we will all see that there is a retailer who already knew about these hops, is buying up big and selling them under the guise of being from somewhere else.......While that is unlikely to be occurring, I'm sure that if it was the retailer wouldn't be overly game to kick up a stink for fear of being caught out...

 

[mikem108]

h34r:
Flame suit on
You get what you pay for. See attached article/ tale of woeView attachment CX.pdf
There is no guarantee that these hops weren't fertilized with human excrement and sprayed with DDT, there is little control over these practices in China, having said that Carlsberg and Saporro have made huge investments in Chinese hop companies so possibly some of the dodgy practices will be controlled.

 

[T.D.]

Most BBs die out due to retailer's bullying suppliers, threatening to go elsewhere and the supplier is left to make a choice between a once off BB sale or a regular source of income.

Somehow I don't see that occurring this time

I think you may be right Pollux <_<