Biofine

[Batz]

Has anyone found their bottle of Biofine separates? I used mine this morning and the bottom half of the bottle has crystals in it, similar to undissolved salt or sugar. I have had it stored in the fridge rather than the warm shed, now back to room temperature and after shaking like mad still separates??
I'm hoping it still performs, I'll know in a couple of days I guess.

Anyone else found their bottle like this?

I found this, mine was in the fridge not the freezer. Seems like mine is now useless, warning keep it out of the fridge.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=459547

 

[Batz]

Regards the posts by me above,

This shows the separation of my Biofine. Yes just a little pissed, racked 100lt of brews into 4 fermenters this morning for ****. Not to mention an almost full 250ml bottle of Biofine for the the bin.

 

[mtb]

That sucks.

You'd think a nice "Do not refrigerate" on the label wouldn't be a difficult task

 

[Batz]

That sucks.

You'd think a nice "Do not refrigerate" on the label wouldn't be a difficult task

I have contacted the HBS I bought it from an made this suggestion. It's a newer addition to most retailers so I guess this was not well known before?

 

[mofox1]

Crap - better take mine out of the fridge!

 

[bradsbrew]

And here I was concerned that it was just sitting on the bench in the shed.

 

[fishingbrad]

I feel for you Batz.
I got 2 lagers in the keezer now both with Bio, and yes it works quicker than Gel but it still stirs up just as much if you move/ bump the keg. So I'm not really overly impressed so far. Moving forward, I got 2 ales fermenting ATM, both the same. I will bio 1 and gel the other. However, if I see the bottle of bio separate or anything suss, it's in the bin and straight back to Gel.

 

[Mothballs]

Hi Batz, we have been using Biofine Clear for a couple of years now and we have always stored ours in the coldroom and have not had any issues with separation so far. It has always been effective using it straight from the coldroom. In fact I have personally found it to be such a good product that I have stopped filtering and am getting beers as bright as those that were filtered and polyclared. Just checked with our supplier and the spec sheet has a recommended storage temp of 5-32 Deg C but do not allow it to freeze. Hopefully the beers you racked will still be ok. I guess time will tell.

 

[Batz]

Hi Batz, we have been using Biofine Clear for a couple of years now and we have always stored ours in the coldroom and have not had any issues with separation so far. It has always been effective using it straight from the coldroom. In fact I have personally found it to be such a good product that I have stopped filtering and am getting beers as bright as those that were filtered and polyclared. Just checked with our supplier and the spec sheet has a recommended storage temp of 5-32 Deg C but do not allow it to freeze. Hopefully the beers you racked will still be ok. I guess time will tell.

Thanks mate, and the Biofine that I bought from you was also in the fridge and did not separate? I love the stuff and will not filter again, I do rack and add biofine to stop any stirring up or sludge in the keg. Up until now it's been great
Mothballs....put it into larger size containers, that's why I changed suppliers. Silly me

 

[Batz]

I feel for you Batz.
I got 2 lagers in the keezer now both with Bio, and yes it works quicker than Gel but it still stirs up just as much if you move/ bump the keg. So I'm not really overly impressed so far. Moving forward, I got 2 ales fermenting ATM, both the same. I will bio 1 and gel the other. However, if I see the bottle of bio separate or anything suss, it's in the bin and straight back to Gel.

To get the full advantage you need to rack, my kegs are crystal clear to the last beer. Shake them up if you like, still clear azz.
I just may have been sold an inferior product.

 

[Gloveski]

Well I added some extra dry hop to half a keg for a bit of extra kick . But the hop sock must have been to course so now my brew ilooks like a NEIPA . So I have added some biofine and gave her a shake so see if she can clear this unsitely brew. It might need a few days I think. Also I have noticed crystals around the top of my little bottle but no seperation that I can tell

 

[Batz]

Bump for the afternoon brewers, read back a few threads.
Don't refrigerate your Biofine.

 

[BJB]

So where did you buy this batch?

 

[Dan2]

Maybe it was just too cold Batz.
We store ours in our 8-10C keg room.
Checked it yesterday and it's fine.
Previous drum had some sediment in the last litre, but that would've just been precipitates - this one was stored in the office @ 10-30C

 

[Batz]

Maybe it was just too cold Batz.
We store ours in our 8-10C keg room.
Checked it yesterday and it's fine.
Previous drum had some sediment in the last litre, but that would've just been precipitates - this one was stored in the office @ 10-30C

It would seem that way, funny part is the fridge also holds my yeast bank and none or those have ever frozen.
Anyway done now, Biofine is in the bin. I will be ordering some more shortly.

Batz

 

[EalingDrop]

Quick update on the extreme CC Vienna Lager. Really nice clarity from the first pour.

Good to see there were enough yeast to naturally carbonate afterall!

 

[Mardoo]

Nice. One of my favourite lagers to brew.

 

[mtb]

Gonna need that Vienna Lager recipe.

 

[Mardoo]

I know you're asking for his, but mine is 100% Vienna malt, either triple decocted or with a touch of melanoidin, Hersbrucker Hersbrucker at 60 for 25 IBU's. Just drinkable as ****. Got that from the guy with the Dopethrone cover as his Avatar, IIRC.

 

[mtb]

I know you're asking for his, but mine is 100% Vienna malt, either triple decocted or with a touch of melanoidin, Hersbrucker Hersbrucker at 60 for 25 IBU's. Just drinkable as ****. Got that from the guy with the Dopethrone cover as his Avatar, IIRC.

Mate if it's good enough for you it's sure as hell good enough for me. I have excess Vienna Malt and a couple liquid lager yeasts to use.. Just found their purpose!

 

[Mardoo]

May I recommend keeping it around 5%. Mine ended up 6.75%, and three pints of it is a bit much in an hour, but easy to drink that fast

 

[mtb]

Understood!

 

[EalingDrop]

MTB, the recipe is based primarily on Greg Hughes. I use a basic app and I'm unable to copy and paste it like the more fancy brew apps other members use.

Typed up the old fashion way like a Durden Park circle recipe...

80% Vienna, 14% Munich, 3% Melanoiden, 1% Choc (SRM 7, photo suggests higher). Northern Brewer 30g @ 60 min, 15g@ flame out (22 IBU). Yeast. Oktoberfest Lager WLP820. SG 1.054 FG 1.010.

The fermentation schedule is based on Brulosophy fast lager.

The head retension wasn't great and towards the end it looked like whisky. I don't know if it's the recipe, Biofine or a combination of both.

 

[mtb]

Much appreciated mate. I think I'll brew both your recipes this holiday season.. I know I'll need the stock

 

[Andy_27]

Where does everyone buy their Biofine? I can only find it at Craftbrewer.

 

[hairydog]

I have found Hoppy Days the best price for Biofine(Brisbane) if I remember around $45 per litre plus freight.

 

[Batz]

Craftbrewer will do 500ml bottles $27.50.

I'm a bit nervous about buying anything over 250ml ATM, after chucking almost a full bottle out.

 

[fishingbrad]

I keep my bio in the cupboard with all my other salts, acid, whirlfloc, etc, etc. Anyway, got it out last night and held it up to the light and all looks good. I have 2 ales CCing ATM, so I gave each FV a gentle swirl and added 10ml of bio each. Will report back once I transfer to kegs.
@Batz, I hear what your saying about racking to secondary, I moved away from that step years ago because of the oxidizes problems I was getting, so I'm reluctant to go back. However, if this doesn't work I will rack but only for the kegs that need to travel. Cheers.

 

[Andy_27]

I have found Hoppy Days the best price for Biofine(Brisbane) if I remember around $45 per litre plus freight.

Cheers! Just placed an order to try some!

 

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How much! I used Brausol and pay $6 per kg ...although in 20l drums. We go thru a drum a week