Best Kit And Kilo Recipes

[RobboMC]

Hi Phil-the-ale-man,

I've not been using the exact recipes on the Coopers site, but rather atking their ideas and expanding on them. I added 300 g Golden Syrup to a can of APA with Liquid Malt and it turned out pretty good. I've also taken up their idea of replacing 500g of sugars with Light Dry Malt into most brews. One of the brews on this thread is the Coopers Unreal Ale recipe brewed with APA instead of Real Ale kit.

 

[johnno]

Back when I was making kits I made this Coopers stout up.
The proof in the tasting was when a work colleauges father tasted it. He is a Coopers stout lover and said this was an awesome brew and could not beleive it was homebrew.

1 Coopers stout kit
1 kilo light malt extract
100 gms dry wheat extract
300 gms dextrose
100 gms brown sugar
Boil malt and wheat extract in 2 litres of water for 10 minutes.
Add sugars at flameout and stir well
Kit yeast. From my notes it says I used 2 packs of the Coopers kit yeast.

I also did not note how much I topped the fermenter up to, but at a rough guess I would say 21 litres.

 

[Phrak]

Thanks AC.

How much (many?) hops would you add (to the boiling wort?) and how long do you reackon to leave them in for?

Roughly how long to leave them in bottles before they're ready?

Sorry for all the n00bie questions, this will be the first time I've gone off a recipe, and only the second time I've brewed!

 

[Uncle Fester]

Back when I was making kits I made this Coopers stout up.
The proof in the tasting was when a work colleauges father tasted it. He is a Coopers stout lover and said this was an awesome brew and could not beleive it was homebrew.

1 Coopers stout kit
1 kilo light malt extract
100 gms dry wheat extract
300 gms dextrose
100 gms brown sugar
Boil malt and wheat extract in 2 litres of water for 10 minutes.
Add sugars at flameout and stir well
Kit yeast. From my notes it says I used 2 packs of the Coopers kit yeast.

I also did not note how much I topped the fermenter up to, but at a rough guess I would say 21 litres.

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Johnno,

Thanks for making me salivate at work! Now everybody is looking at me.


My 2-can stout goes into the fermenter tonight. last one I did was a ripper.

1 x can Coopers stout
1 x can Homebrand Lager
300g Brown sugar

Both yeast, make to 20 litres.


If its half as good as my last one, then I will be over the moon.

M

 

[Aussie Claret]

Phrak,
About 12-15 grams of hop pellets for 1min boil or alternatively steep in hot water and add to the fermenter. (You can get the Morgans tea bag type hops which come in 12g packs), thats probably the easiest way to go about it for a first attempt.
After bottling, the longer you can leave it the better it will be, try a beer after 2 weeks then 4 and see the difference. From 4 -6 weeks the beer should be pretty good. Leave the freshly bottled beer for 2 weeks at room temps to carbonate, then put in the fridge to condition.

Cheers
AC

 

[Phil_the_ale_man]

Cheers Robbo,

I did a sparkling ale version on the weekend using the pale ale kit, 1.5 kg of dry malt and 500g of dex (similar to the sparkling recipe). Used recultured pale ale yeast from 2 stubbies. Hopefully will work well.

I agree though, I've started heavily editing their recipes, but they're a good place to start!

Cheers,

Phil.

 

[bindi]

The best stout K@k done over a year ago,was 1 can of coopers stout and Grumpys Colonial stout mix done with Wyeast Irish 1084.

 

[Phrak]

<Re: Chocolate Porter tips>

About 12-15 grams of hop pellets for 1min boil or alternatively steep in hot water and add to the fermenter. <snip>

Cheers again! :beer:
Tim.

 

[Steve]

ESB 3kg American Pale Ale Kit
20gms Cascade pelletts in cup of boiling water for 15 mins, pour this in primary with the kit, US56 dry year, 7 days primary at 18 degrees, rack to secondary for 7 days dry hop with handfull of cascade pelletts, keep at 18 degrees, bulk prime 150gms white sugar. Bloody sensational - hop heaven! Was drinking this after 10 days in the bottle. The greener the better. All 27 longnecks are now gone after only 3 weeks. Bloody beautiful!
Cheers
Steve

 

[andreic]

OK, thought I'd add my 2 favourite kit recipes to date...

1. Coopers Sparkling Ale kit made exactly as per recommendations - the kit, 1.5kg Pale LME, 500g light DME, 300g dex, with a re-cultured yeast from a coopers sparkling ale. I bulk primed, bottled and tried a stubbie every week or 2 from 3 weeks onwards. It was horrible for the first 2 months - a real oily, slick mouth feel and then an extreme alcoholic taste. However, after 3-4 months it really mellowed out and was excellent, and fairly close to a coopers sparkling ale in my opinion. My advice if you do this one - brew it and hide the bottles for 3 months, or even longer if you can wait! It also packs a punch - around 6.8% by my calculations.

2. Morgans' Royal Oak Amber Ale kit, 1kg light DME, 200g crystal malt (steeped 30 minutes), 15g Willamette hop pellets steeped 5 minues, 10g Willamette pellets dry hopped secondary, Safale S-04 yeast. This recipe was inspired by an afternoon drinking James Squire amber ales at the Newport arms. Its probably not that close to JSAA, is fairly bitter, but tastes great after only 4 weeks in the bottle. I really like this one, a lot... got another one fermenting right now. Not sure the dry hopping made a big difference, am not bothering with it for my current batch.

cheers,

Andrei

 

[Trough Lolly]

G'day Andrei,
I used to make a Kilkenny clone with the Morgans Royal Oak Amber Ale kit.

The recipe is at the bottom of this post: click here for the recipe...

Cheers,
TL

 

[RobboMC]

Is this forum meant to be kit and kilo of solids or are kit and kilos of liquid malts alowed?

I made Thomas Coopers Draught last month, with the recommended can of light liquid malt. even after only 4 weeks in the bottle the result is fantastic. Much better head retention than the pale ale and is flows down a real treat. I have been making lots of '2 can' recipes lately. One can of kit and one can of LME. Add hops to taste.

Is this a kit and kilo(s) or a 2 can recipe?

PS Phil the Ale man, - forget the dex, why add alcohol without taste when you can alcohol WITH taste. If you want the ale that strong go the whole hog and add 2 kilos of DME!!!

I have just bottled an ale brewed with two and a half kilos of malts in the brew ( plus the kit!),
with FG of 1020 it should be awesome; or rubbish, will find out next month when I can taste it.

Robbo

 

[Trough Lolly]

G'day Robbo,
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference between a kilo of solids and a kilo of malt extract? It's all the same once the yeast gets at it!!

Without getting too anal, the "kit and kilo" term as I understand it usually applies to any brew that is made from a basic kit of hopped concentrate and the addition of some fermentables, eg, steeping grains, or adding some dry or liquid malted extract or dextrose or any combo of these ingredients.

I think Phils use of dextrose, in conjunction with the 1.5kg of dry malt extract, would probably be to aid in creating a dry flavour profile to the beer rather than adding loads of potentially cloying malt extract...

Cheers,
TL

 

[DrewCarey82]

A sensational refreshing pilsener arguably my favourite beer.

Morgans golden sheaf wheat.

250g lME, 250g MD, 500g Dex.

Hop bag of morgans saaz in primary.

Kit yeast.

21 litres @ 20-24 degrees. 7 days in primary, 7 days in secondary.

At 3 months this is brillant and everyone who try's wants more.

 

[hupnupnee]

Agreed DrewCarey. I did a similar one to this with Hallertau instead of the Saaz and it came out a ripper. In fact there is not much that comes from Morgans that doesn't rate up there.

Tim

 

[petesbrew]

Hi Guys.

Newbie here! Just thought I'd add to this post because nobody answered my other post. Has anyone made the recipes off the cooper's website? Are any of them any good?

Cheers,

Phil_the_ale_man

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I've made the irish ale, which turned out a bit rough to start, but it's getting better over time. I've got another recipe of theirs that was in a mail-out for a Canadian Buxom Blonde. I'll post it soon as it was a deadset fantastic drop... a very belgian style blonde.
It's good to see some easy recipes for us amateur brewers. I'll do an AG sometime, but the cans are quick and easy.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I was pleasantly surprised by a Munton's Scottish ale kit I did recently...

Muntons Scottish Ale can
1.5kg LME
T bag of EKG in fermenter
20g Cascade in secondary
Windsor Ale yeast
fermented @ 18 degrees, CC'd for 3 weeks

Really nice and simple.

Will definately be doing again.

M

 

[mark_m]

Where to start - so many kits so little time!

I recently did a Muntons Trad Bitter (out of date can)
1kg Coopers b/e 2, safale yeast, 10 days in primary @ 22-24 degrees, straight into keg (my first keg brew!), crash carbonated 3 minutes @ 250kpa - laying on side rocking keg, re-connected to gas @ 100kpa 3 days later, absolutely superb, pleasantly bitter with a full & fruity flavour. One of the best beers I have ever tasted. Keg ran dry after 2 1/2 weeks - definitely one to do again.

Currently on tap, coopers draught, supplied yeast, 1kg b/e2 + 500g lme, 20x20 hallertau pallets (boiled / steeped), 10 days primary (kegged a bit early - too keen after the first one!), crash carbonated 250kpa 3 minutes, after 12 days cold conditioning, drinking beautifully with a nice hop aroma.

My "never fail" - coopers bitter, supplied yeast, coopers b/e 2, 2-3 weeks primary (doesn't seem to matter) @ 20 -30 degrees, drinkable in the bottle after 4 weeks, but try to leave three months (it only gets better).

At the end of the day, most kits i've tried with coopers b/e 1 or 2 or similar have come out well - just leave in the bottle as long as possible (within reason).

Absolute standouts have been (in no particular order):

Muntons Trad bitter (above)
Woodfordes Norfolke Nog all malt
Woodfordes Headcracker Pale Ale (13l all malt kit, improves with age, packs a punch!)
Coopers Bitter w/- B/E2
Malt Shovel Breweries Pale ale (& 2 row lager)
Morgans Amber ale w/- b/e2

particularly unremarkable have been:

anything in the Cascade range
anything in the Tooheys range

The best thing I've done so far this year is to set up a keg system, & with 600 tallies / 27 varieties still in the conditioning cupboard, there's stiil plenty of room for experimentation.
Cheers
Mark

 

[mika]

I'll agree with you there Mark, anything Coopers is as good as gold.
Anything Tooheys, treat with trepidation (or leave it on the shelf to be sure)

 

[Hogan]

Excellent recipe posts guys, especially the detailed ones from Trough Lolly on steeping and boiling foreplay. Have previously just done ESB fresh worts and all inclusive hopped cans with no additives necessary. OK to start but not particularly thought provoking. Now I have the step-by-step I can get into some new ground. Can't wait for the AHB Recipe page to begin.

Cheers, Hogan.