Beerfest 2010 Results

[haysie]

Manticle,

Windows Vista, updated last nite thinking this was the problem. I receive pdf attachments every day of the week.
Bypass? The problem with webmail as I read it, once you download to i.e outlook, its not webmail anymore, its gone, I checked that too.

I am getting a little :icon_offtopic: , others dont seem to be having problems, apart from "most people" verbatim. What a headfaark for a couple of judging sheets.

 

[manticle]

Manticle,

Windows Vista, updated last nite thinking this was the problem. I receive pdf attachments every day of the week.
Bypass? The problem with webmail as I read it, once you download to i.e outlook, its not webmail anymore, its gone, I checked that too.

I am getting a little :icon_offtopic: , others dont seem to be having problems, apart from "most people" verbatim. What a headfaark for a couple of judging sheets.

I did have trouble when trying to use a download managing software program (similar to yours - a lot of garbled text and code).

Even though outlook is your default mail 'client' you still should be able to login to your email account without it if you remember your passwords and address.

For example - if your email server was hotmail, connect to the net, type in www.hotmail.com and then enter your username and password. The same email will be there - click on the attachment and allow it to open, then see if it opens. If it doesn't it means a problem with outlook. Otherwise it could be the settings in your operating system.

A bit tech nerdy geeky but other outlook and vista users have reported problems using pdf/mime formats (not all pdfs will use mime which is why you can usually read them).

If you right click (instead of left click) with the mouse, do you get the option to 'open with'?

If so click on it and try opening with whatever version of adobe reader you have.

You may also need to update your version of adobe reader (can be done free)

Hope you work it out.

 

[scott_penno]

I didn't partake in Beerfest so don't have access to the email that was sent. If the header that haysie posted is complete there is a problem with the email that was sent. The header line that says 'Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=".9380.Fri,.02.Apr.2010.18:03:56.+1100"' tells the mailclient that whenever it sees the text '.9380.Fri,.02.Apr.2010.18:03:56.+1100' it should consider this another part of the message (ie attachment). If you read down a little further, just before the PDF file, you'll see the boundary is listed as '--,.02.Apr.2010.18:03:56.+1100'. As this isn't the same as the boundary it was told to look for, some/many/all mail clients may fail to interpret the attachment. If many/most others can read the attachment, I'll just jump back in my box, but from what I can see, the message does seem to be encoded incorrectly.

sap.

 

[haysie]

Ok. I know what the problem is now, but I won't be fixing it until tomorrow afternoon our time (hopefully 12 hours won't see people jumping off bridges, or worse still coming after me with pitchforks and burning torches!)

Cheers!

Andy

You *******, i have wasted hour upon hour, missed church today! :angry:
Stick your sheets.

 

[Andyd]

What can I say? Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't... looks like this time I didn't.

It looks like there's an issue with the mailer I'll have to address - C'est la vie. Just let me know and we'll mail the sheets instead.

Huge? I wanted to make sure you could read the variable quality of handwriting on the sheets...

The real driver behind us doing it this way is not cost. It is getting harder and harder to find people who are willing to commit time to running competitions (I'm now up to about 60 hours just on this comp, let alone the other beer related activities I'm engaged in). So we need ways to manage competitions that don't involve me having someone sit down for 5 or six hours stuffing envelopes and licking stamps. If we don't have better ways to run comps, or more people willing to put up hands to help, the competitions will die out.

Haysie, I'll send yours out...

Andy

 

[Wolfy]

If we don't have better ways to run comps, or more people willing to put up hands to help, the competitions will die out.

I'd be happy to work with you (or anyone) to develop a completely online system, the only real problem would be comp-judges having access to to the system while doing the tasting.
I'm not sure how many judges would be willing/able to enter details via computer-format (even if they had drop down-boxes and many things pre-filled-in) while they were judging.
However if you leverage that against the time you've spent organising, you may be able to 'encourage' them and then most of the other issues would fall into place easily enough.

... Then again, tell the judges them we'll give them drop-down-boxes for auto-completing for entries like "Not to style" and "Infected" and that might get 1/3 of their work done with 2 clicks of the mouse. :lol:

 

[Andyd]

Good thoughts, but for the judging component I fear we're a long way off being able to resource that option (it would cost a pretty penny to get enough computers, and I suspect the judging times would increase significantly in the short term).

The longer part of that is really the entry processing and result processing side. I've just about completed an online tool to manage those components and they should relieve a lot of the hassle on those sides, but happy to catch up over a beer to discuss with you sometime!

In the meantime it's more than just the entry processing that needs help, so if anyone is so inclined please feel free to contact any competition organizer and volunteer!

Andy

 

[haysie]

In the meantime it's more than just the entry processing that needs help, so if anyone is so inclined please feel free to contact any competition organizer and volunteer!

Andy

Not really sure what your implying here Andy? For mine as I have seen it over the last few years here in Vic, some wont let go and share responsibilities full stop. Closed shop like.
The MB british comp in May should be up n running, how the hell are brewers going to brew if its not up n running NOW.

If the results are such a burden, put your hand up! People will help out, on the other hand shut people out, become inhouse ect, all clubs and comps will die!

btw, dont post the sheets, it looks like you have sorted it at your end.

Cheers Sappas, as suspected it was the senders issue not the recipient.