A grope among the gum trees.

[technobabble66]

Don't be so simple. No one would ever think that anyone here was siding with, that's not what anyone is even claiming.

Put yourself in the shoes of a chick that has copped crap from a dickhead like DB and then read the thread. It would come across as a bunch of blokes having a laugh about chicks being molested. Not supporting or defending it, but laughing about it.

When I read the thread I started making up song lines in my head as well, was a bit of fun. Then I thought about my friend who had been raped reading my words and I knew how it would hurt her to hear me making jokes about what she had suffered. That's when I decided to post what I did and why I'm trying to explain it now in a way that's not accusing anyone of bbeing a dick but to just think about things from a different angle.

It's just about not having a laugh at other people's expense, really. I hate being PC, I'm an old soldier and grew up as a westie, it's not in my nature. I guess being exposed to some things just changes the way you look at stuff. I don't know.

Well explained.
I'm not sure how I feel about the nature of the rhyme, as obviously everyone's having a laugh by ridiculing DB & definitely not the victims.
Also, it's probably a typical coping mechanism of dealing with the horror of realizing that this icon of 90's TV and gardening turns out to be a narcissistic sexual predator masquerading as Mr Nice Guy - trying to make light of what everyone *knows* is a terrible situation.

On the other hand, if it comes down to a choice between having a laugh at something or hurting the victim(s) of sexual harassment/assault, I think I'll just find something else to laugh at.

I like how you clearly pointed out no one's suggesting anyone here is "being a dick" or being callous or making light of the victims. It's more just a matter of perspective.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

People like the idea of equality, not actual equality.

If that was two bricklayers and one said, "If you **** that next wall up, I will rip off your head and shit down your throat" would there be any talk of it?

Thats pretty much standard brickie language

 

[technobabble66]

Yes, and I also like the idea of a person accused of crimes being considered innocent until proven guilty. Let him face his accusers in court for the sexual molestation that they claim. And let's not carry on like a bunch of gossipy old fish wives passing judgement on someone where the facts are yet to be fully known.

Generally I'd totally agree.
However, this is starting to look fairly concluded though - just far too many victims. Susie O'Neal's statement today pretty much seals it for me.

I'll admit I'm biased. Don Burke comes across very similarly to a guy (a therapist) I was a witness against many years ago - 33 girls accusing him of some vaguely similar stuff and mainly much more serious allegations. I'm 100% certain he was guilty of exactly what these girls accused him of. Not 95 or 99. 100%. 1 or 2 you might have some reservations, in the name of fairness - her word against his, and all. But once you've seen 10 girls go past with detailed accounts of their harassment/assault, then another 10, then another 10, you start to reach a pretty solid conclusion.
And you start to get a different perspective on these situations when so many people accuse an individual of the exact same pattern of behavior.
For me having watched that DB interview, it's amazing the similarity in manner and phrasing to the guy I knew while trying to provide a litany of innocent explanations. Obviously not a smoking gun etc but a very very striking similarity.

2c

 

[pcmfisher]

Self diagnosed Asperger's, big deal.
It was common knowledge even back when he was on TV that he was a **** of a man to work with.
It just seems a bit much to believe that this many people would make up stories about him being a sexual predator just to get back at him.

 

[Dave70]

....Actually... I worked ( still do ) with a few people who had genuine Apsergers...kinda wierd how they act ( but no in a Don Burke/Harvey Wienstien way ).

They certainly didnt do anything remotely sexual, lewd, crass..etc...they where more the opposite in fact....One bloke wont look you in the eyes when he talks to you,...kinda looks a bit sideways and tares at nothing. And very intelligent and geeks...mad geeks

Thats because Don has Aspergers like I have a 165 IQ. My opinion, he's lying through his ******* teeth. So, he self diagnoses with mental condition synonymous with odd behavior, but also genius. Makes a nice fit for gargantuan ego. Hijacking a legitimate and debilitating illness as a scapegoat for your bad behavior is appalling in of itself. Then he goes on to claim long term memory loss, which is unfortunately, not consistent with Aspergers (on average they have better long term recall than regular people), its the short memory term thats the problem.
Then the typical evasion of not wanting to mention names, personal grudges, which hunts and flat out 'I cant recall'. Shades of Craig Thomson and Bill Clinton to be sure.

Dons a smart guy, smart enough to realize he's in a bad ******* spot.
Pitty. I actually use to enjoy his program.

I sure hope Costa from Gardening Australia hasn't any skeletons in the cupboard. I'll be mortified!..

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Then he goes on to claim long term memory loss, which is unfortunately, not consistent with Aspergers

Yep...blokes at work with it can remember all sorts of crazy stuff...like the exact date a Pentium2 was released...or the shade of grey on the side of the starship enterprise. One bloke can remember conversations he had with customers 18 months ago in alarming detail. And the worst thing is they tend to always tell the truth ( or exactly how it is ) ...they would make awesome court witnesses

I sure hope Costa from Gardening Australia hasn't any skeletons in the cupboard. I'll be mortified!..

WEEELLLL....he has been shacking up with Dirt Girl and getting grubby...

You can see here that he is clearly trying to cut old mate out

 

[Dave70]

Yep...blokes at work with it can remember all sorts of crazy stuff...like the exact date a Pentium2 was released...or the shade of grey on the side of the starship enterprise. One bloke can remember conversations he had with customers 18 months ago in alarming detail. And the worst thing is they tend to always tell the truth ( or exactly how it is ) ...they would make awesome court witnesses



WEEELLLL....he has been shacking up with Dirt Girl and getting grubby...

You can see here that he is clearly trying to cut old mate out

I swear some of these G rated programs contain some very R rated in jokes woven in. Anybody familiar with Micky Roukes 'popcorn scene' from that 80s movie 'Diner' would recognize this one.


Jeezz. Take it easy Alex..

 

[mondestrunken]

I've just gotten my barge pole out of the boating shed.

 

[wynnum1]

Do these current affairs shows have script writers they said Don 'Is going down ' and Christopher Pyne explicit gay pornographic video phone tweet.
“We need to know how deep and far this penetration ... has been.”

 

[mtb]

Is penetration and "going down" specifically gay now? I thought that was all sword fights

 

[Grott]

Yeh like the rainbow

 

[Pnutapper]

The irony...

 

[Black Devil Dog]

I remember that episode, it's still awkward to watch.

 

[Dave70]

So Kay, how would you like to pollinate my philodendron..he..he..he..

 

[Bribie G]

 

[gunbrew]

For what it's worth...
I have just been told that Rex Hunt is now in trouble.
A whole school of fish has come forward claiming he kissed them.
Not my joke, I was a bit amused when told though.

 

[Droopy Brew]

Clear pattern starting to emerge that blokes with beards are sexual predators. I expect a few around here to be interviewed on ACA over the coming months.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

In hind sight I am glad my wife vetoed any female employees I hired, even though the bookkeeper still gives me nightmares.

 

[Dave70]

Clear pattern starting to emerge that blokes with beards are sexual predators. I expect a few around here to be interviewed on ACA over the coming months.

It would seem so.

NSFW x 2..

 

[SeeFar]

In hind sight I am glad my wife vetoed any female employees I hired, even though the bookkeeper still gives me nightmares.

That's an interesting comment!

Are you (and your wife) concerned that you might have pulled a "Don" yourself if tempted?